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OK, I had what I thought was a possable timing problem, same as a post earlier.
This is what I'm working with:
86 toy P/U-22R
I was replacing the head-gasket, I had followed the book as close as possable, everything came off and back on OK.
Now when I have it at TDC and the Distributor pointing at #1, The motor will turn, but not run. It also pops alittle and occasionaly spits a flame out of the carb....?
Now if I take out the distributor and turn it 180*,my timing mark is at the bottom of the balancer, it will turn over and run(rough).
Now as suggested before, the cam may have been on the exhaust stroke, the book said nothing about this, so I turned the cam 360* and it still dose it???
Could the timing chain be 180* off??? I didn't move it off the chain when I took the head off....?
I thought it might be a vac line on the carb,or something?
I've been fighting this problem for a week now, I'm really out of ideas.
-jerry-

[ 09-24-2001: Message edited by: 89YotaRunner ]
 

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You can't put a timing chain 180* out as the next time the crank comes around it's right back to the same spot.It does sound like you have the distributor out.I would take #1 plug out and with your finger over the hole rotate the engine by hand till you feel the compression coming up.Then look at the mark on the crank and rotate it till it it's at TDC.I would then take the valve cover off and check the cam position.Pull the cap off and see if the rotors pointing at #1.I would then ensure that the wires are on properly.If all that checks out hopefully it will fire up all right.I hope this helps a bit and good luck.
 

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I'll try it, again.
If the distrib is out, would it still fire up? It will run with it about 180* turned.
Is the spitting fire <IMG SRC="smilies/pissed.gif" border="0"> a sign for anything related...
It's not my truck, I've got EFI, I'm just getting to know these motors.

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The spitting may be from the wires being crossed or to advanced if it's coming through the intake and up through the carb.If it's out the exhaust it could be retarded or crossed.Just make sure all the mechanical end is right first then worry about what happens after that.I'm sure you will find that it fires right up.Make sure you know the rotation direction of the distributor as you may have crossed 2&3 if it goes the opposite way.
 

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Ok, I'm lost, I thought the fireing order was Front(1)(2)(3)(4)....At TDC the rotor on the distrub is pointing to the #1 location.
This is the FAWked up part, it wont turn over at all that way, now just tring anything, I swiched the (2) and (3) plug wires and it sounded/ran ok, but no power? the timing checked ok to. May not be revelant, but the breaks were sloppy, like the vac line to the booster was disconected...it's not????

I would really like to get this done tonight if possable, there's a big case of <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> if anyone can come over and help... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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OK the firing order is 1-3-4-2 starting from the front.Check which way the rotor turns.It sounds like you may have screwed up the valve timing due to the lack of vacuum.Check the marks as I said in my earlier post.If the distributor is out pull it out and reinstall.Just remember when it goes back in it will rotate slightly so allow for that.Set the distibutor in the middle of the travel provided by the slot.You should be at least close.The important thing is make sure all the mechanical parts line up before messing with anything.If I was just a little closer I would come over and give you a hand.
 
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