[Jeremy K]

Ya I know, darn newbies and their silly ass questions and not using the search like they should but once upon a time, there was a thread about the 6.1:1 gears having hair line cracks after extensive testing. Are the Asain Auto Parts of AZ, Roadless Gear's RGRS3, Rocky Road's 6.1:1 gears all the same? I believe the supplier is Sumo, but does Sumo supply all these people? If so, why would there be a $300 difference in prices? Fill me in, I would love to be a guinea pig and let you all know how they work out, but would rather not get the crap ones. Thanks <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">

 

[Arizona Zuk]

Originally posted by sportnick:
<STRONG>Ya I know, darn newbies and their silly ass questions and not using the search like they should but once upon a time, there was a thread about the 6.1:1 gears having hair line cracks after extensive testing. Are the Asain Auto Parts of AZ, Roadless Gear's RGRS3, Rocky Road's 6.1:1 gears all the same? I believe the supplier is Sumo, but does Sumo supply all these people? If so, why would there be a $300 difference in prices? Fill me in, I would love to be a guinea pig and let you all know how they work out, but would rather not get the crap ones. Thanks <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Ahso Grasshopper.....said Master Poe, I will fill you in on the SUMO gears...the name comes from our honorable products that are built for the Suzuki Samurai...yet have the strength of a Sumo Wrestler.....They are built in a factory far far away.....by Asian Auto Parts Elves...

and we all know Elves work cheap..so we pass on the savings to you....

The Sumo 6.1's are sold only by "Asian Auto Parts" tested tough in more and more Zuks every day...and they are going fast, even though they make your Zuk go slow......lol

you will need to ask the other companies about the 6.1's they have....it's their job to answer that question for you....

 

[Jeremy K]

Those elves must be ambitious little guys, especially if they're cutting them from billet like the elves at Roadless Gear. Either way, 3 bills a lot to save, hell, its the lockers almost! Thanks for the help Dave.

Grasshopper.

 

[txranger]

I didnt know RRO had a 6:1......hmmm...Glenn?

 

[Arizona Zuk]

Originally posted by sportnick:
<STRONG>Those elves must be ambitious little guys, especially if they're cutting them from billet like the elves at Roadless Gear. Either way, 3 bills a lot to save, hell, its the lockers almost! Thanks for the help Dave.

Grasshopper.</STRONG>

the Elves are busy...they made a cool t-case skidplate/bucket to protect the t-case.....we're offering it at a reduced cost when ya get the Sumo complete 6.1 t-case....

it's a great package deal....look for it on the website real soon....

 

[Arizona Zuk]

Originally posted by sportnick:
<STRONG>Ya I know, darn newbies and their silly ass questions and not using the search like they should but once upon a time, there was a thread about the 6.1:1 gears having hair line cracks after extensive testing. Are the Asain Auto Parts of AZ, Roadless Gear's RGRS3, Rocky Road's 6.1:1 gears all the same? I believe the supplier is Sumo, but does Sumo supply all these people? If so, why would there be a $300 difference in prices? Fill me in, I would love to be a guinea pig and let you all know how they work out, but would rather not get the crap ones. Thanks <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

someone told me the RGRS3's were going for $695 or something like that.....is that correct?

 

[Jeremy K]

I just double checked the prices, the RGRS1 is 899.00 this being the 4.16. The RGRS3 is $1349.00 for the 6.129:1 gears <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> . They seem pricy, but they also compensate for a 32 or 33" tire ( I would think anyway).
Tell me more about the possibility of destroying transfer case mounts/arms with the gear reduction. I'm a Toyota freak, and am not sure what to expect. Your skid plate sounds pretty nifty, tell me more! <IMG SRC="smilies/eyemouth.gif" border="0"> What about the core charges on a T-case, what do they run on average? I don't mean to sound like a <IMG SRC="smilies/bender.gif" border="0"> but hey, call it newbie syndrome. <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

 

[Rockhopper]

There not all the same. Roadless and RRO are supplied with our gears (Rockhopper). There are four gears involved, and they are all one peice billet gears, nothing is welded, pinned, splined or second hand.
The two designs are different. The ratios are different. Rockhopper gears are 21% high range reduction, low works out at 170% (6.129 to 1). Our gears don't require any grinding of the case.
Regards
Liam Quigley
Rockhopper

 

[Arizona Zuk]

There not all the same. Roadless and RRO are supplied with our gears (Rockhopper). There are four gears involved, and they are all one peice billet gears, nothing is welded, pinned, splined or second hand.
The two designs are different. The ratios are different. Rockhopper gears are 21% high range reduction, low works out at 170% (6.129 to 1). Our gears don't require any grinding of the case.
Regards
Liam Quigley
Rockhopper

Liam

I want you to know, I feel there is enough room for more than one option of a gear set....I am glad your making aftermarket parts and gears for all of us Zuki guys....it gives everyone a choice...something we all needed for a long time....

the Sumo gears are lower in high range to make up for bigger tires onroad....
they are not billet right now, just to keep the cost down...we wanted to allow Zuki guys without a Jeep Paycheck to get them too....we all know there are plenty cut and welded gears out there running great for many, many years without any trouble...

We are going to make Billet gears too....some for trackers and other makes of 4x4's

anyway, no matter how you make them, some guys are going to find fault in them...I can't wait until your gears are selling over here....I can't keep up with orders now...lol

this message is not a slam, or a sales marketing point...just a thanks to you for also making Zuk parts...and my attempt to try and get along with you....

Best Regards

 

[Rockhopper]

Dave, no worries, I don't have a problem with anyone, it actually works out better for us if theres other people cutting similar gears .
Welcome to the wonderful world of gear cutting (tongue firmly in cheek) Here's some of the daily comments we get that I'm sure you'll find familliar;
"my freind's, freind reckons he can make that for half that price"
"but there just little metal cogs, whats so complicated about it?"
"what do you mean you don't do a set for a Lada?"
"so whats the tooth count, the cutter details, the exact steel grade and the name of a cheap workshop..."
"yes, but my cars blue"
"I need a internal spline shaft to join two odd transfers, dont know what they are, have you got one on the shelf ?"
"can you join these two rusty old peices of junk for me ?(and then warantee them)"
"ever since I got your gears my headlights stopped working, therefore its your fault"
"but I read on the net..."
Aaahh,LOL, lucky we have a sense of humour and plenty of time to explain....
Hey Dave, do you guys do any planetary gears?
Liam

 

[Arizona Zuk]

Hey Dave, do you guys do any planetary gears?
Liam

Great idea....gears for other planets....right now let's cover the 4x4's on this one first....lol

so far just the 6.1's , next up would be Track/Kick gears...if ya think there is a demand for them....a bunch of Jeep guys want this ratio in their box.....but they have too many different boxes to build them for....some of them said (after watching my Zuk work it's way through Axle Alley) they were going to look for a Zuk.....lol