great info. I'm trying to make my rock crawler go fast.
I just Re-read this thread.. Some of the new suspensions are testing the rest of the rig again!
zukijames;14502674) I have really enjoyed alot of your post lots of tech/ knowledge in your post not stuff pulled out of your ass ! [/QUOTE said:Ha!. I am trying to "figure it out" right along with you! I have been having fun with offroading since the 70's. International offroad MC riding and then Jeeps. Offroading teaches the engineer that it is OK to re-invent. Lately, I have just been able to take video and ask questions of a few guys who should know, and try to make some sense out of it. Most of the drivers know what doesn't work. They apply that learning to the next "better build." There is one hell of a lot of talent on Pirate if you can get them talking, sending you in the right direction for more info, and trying to figure it out. You will notice that I usually ask a question at the end of what I may think is happening. I try to explain how I came to a thought instead of just giving the thought. That gives the real experts (someone who has actually done/experienced it) a chance to chime in. We all learn.
Personally, I have been working on a "Street Legal Jeep" build for 15 years. Think about how the offroad thing has changed in that time. I had everything figured out, but then guys started lifting, and tires got bigger. I want a sand/trail jeep that keeps up with the best of both. Up and bigger was not going where I wanted. Then guys started lowering their rides, and running more droop than compression. Things started back my way, and I picked up with some rock crawlers that wanted to go fast. Then KOH. Then even more suspension tricks with new parts technology. Awesome.
So now in the interest of suspension, I have given up on the sub 2k pound "Jeep", $1k alum mod44 IRS, $1k alum mod44 SUA, for another 1-2k pounds and 30x the price suspension. My bone yard includes 3 sets of brand new R&P's, 2 sets of 15" special built wheels, 1 new set of sand tires, a new set of 35's", and lots of outer axle stuff. I bet I have 2 tons of alum chunks in the garage purchased for hubs, axle tubes, links, arms, x members, body, etc. etc.
I can say that I have not done it right....But it DOES make me feel better if I can convince myself that it is OK to just S'Can a few months/years work...and $$$$$$$.
Everyone is trying to do and justify the same, and is fun as hell! (??)
I only hope to get something done, finished, fun on the trails, and fast in the dunes before something like electric motors take over.....LOL
SO NOW: DOUBLE TRIANGLE FRONT OR IFS with a front radiator/front engine????? ($5-10k vs $15-40k) ......and pro-dive, anti-dive, caster/camber gain, kick, travel, diff clearance, hydro, power rack, bell crank steering, .........???
I have a line on a 2k lb slab of 2 3/4" aluminum that I can make A-arms or links out of. Should I buy it? :grinpimp: