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I'm in need of some ideas and advice on getting more flex from my 4-runner.I have 4" pro-comp springs(center pin redrilled 1 1/2" forward)and 3" downey shackels in front.The rear is 4" blocks, stock springs with some sort of a lifted spring on bottom(not an add-a-leaf)and the longest rear shackle they make. I'm not if I should go All-pro or 44044's in the front. What needs to be done to make the 44044's fit on a straight axle toy? I need help with is the rear too. I can buy a set of 63" long Chevey 1/2ton or 59" Ram 1/2 ton springs for $50 a set. I may be off on the mesurement. Which one and how do I go about this convertion. This is my only truck now so I do need it some what High safe. Any pic would be helpfull to.
This is a pic of my old truck. Same running gear,springs and flex as my 4-runner but this truck didn't have the Hy-steer when the pic was taken.I want to go to the hammers this winter but I need the flex that I saw at the Marlin Crawler Roundup


[ 09-22-2001: Message edited by: CruzrDave ]

[ 09-22-2001: Message edited by: CruzrDave ]
 

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If you want to be like everone else and do what they are doing. Go with the 44044's and chevys. To get the 44044's in the front you have to shave the bushing and maybe spread the hanger. Chevys alittle more work with moving the hanger forward. Allpros in front also work good. What ever rubs you right <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> .
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I thought about doing the 91 toy rears on a chevy project I am building. Would those springs support the weight of the 292 I-6, with really no front sheet metal (1937 cab, wont be running fenders for a while)

I really love to do this do to the center pin offset, to shorten the front end.

Thanks alot, your input is appreciated
Robert <><
 

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Originally posted by POS w/Potential:
<STRONG>I thought about doing the 91 toy rears on a chevy project I am building. Would those springs support the weight of the 292 I-6, with really no front sheet metal (1937 cab, wont be running fenders for a while)

I really love to do this do to the center pin offset, to shorten the front end.

Thanks alot, your input is appreciated
Robert <><</STRONG>
you might need to run an add a leaf. i do in my 4runner. in the front. but it flexes nice and drives good. as for the support, im not sure. the springs are kinda flat in my truck. and it weighs 5000 lbs.
 

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You can do a LOT better than the stock toyota springs in back. Go get some 63" long chevy springs for the back end. They flex like mad.

You can find everything you ever need to know about flexy Toyota suspensions here.</font>
 

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this is mine with early toy rears up front, it has a long AAL and two early mazda shorts in it, the front hanger is 1.5 forward and the perches drilled 1 3/8 back to clear hy steer arms, slightly cheaper than 44044s since you have them already, i have been told you can mix fronts up there too for added height etc.
hope that helps, oh and by the way they will stretch that shock to about 29"


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Originally posted by BigBadBob:
<STRONG>The allpros flex like mad.</STRONG>
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DAMN BOB! You weren't kidding about the all-pro's flexing!

<a href="http://microtech.com/bob/SAS/Flexin/Left%20Front%20spring%20and%20Right%20Front%20shackle.jpg" border="2"><img src="http://microtech.com/bob/SAS/Flexin/Left%20Front%20spring%20and%20Right%20Front%20shackle.jpg" width="384" height="256" border="2"></a></font>

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Originally posted by MasterYota:
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Originally posted by BigBadBob:
[qb]The allpros flex like mad.</STRONG>
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DAMN BOB! You weren't kidding about the all-pro's flexing!

<a href="http://microtech.com/bob/SAS/Flexin/Left%20Front%20spring%20and%20Right%20Front%20shackle.jpg" border="2"><img src="http://microtech.com/bob/SAS/Flexin/Left%20Front%20spring%20and%20Right%20Front%20shackle.jpg" width="384" height="256" border="2"></a></font>

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LOL <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Yea, you don't even need a drive shaft to flex them....
 

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Damn thats some nice flex. You made my decission. All-pro fronts. Who made your rear spring mounts?
Any body run all-pro rears. I'm pretty sure the chevys will handle all my trail gear and and passengers but what about All-pro. If theres one thing I hate it's a sagging truck.
 

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if you've got the $$$, got with AOR Orbit eyes. you'll get all the flex of All Pro and then some! if you're using this as a daily driver, don't get orbit eyes on both ends (of the springs) up front.
 

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Originally posted by CruzrDave:
<STRONG>Damn thats some nice flex. You made my decission. All-pro fronts. Who made your rear spring mounts?
Any body run all-pro rears. I'm pretty sure the chevys will handle all my trail gear and and passengers but what about All-pro. If theres one thing I hate it's a sagging truck.</STRONG>
I run allpro all round, mine rear are the 9" longer ones+ a buggy leaf setup, and they flex just as well as the front ones. As for the sagging, I can't really give you an answer, I've only had mine on for a month+. I do run with a spair+tools+gear, and they didn't change but mabie 1/2" to an 1" or so.
I love em
 

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Originally posted by CruzrDave:
<STRONG>Any body run all-pro rears. I'm pretty sure the chevys will handle all my trail gear and and passengers but what about All-pro. If theres one thing I hate it's a sagging truck.</STRONG>
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If you don't want sag, go Chevy. Ther primary reason they're so popular is that they don't sag or wrap. They're made for a much heavier rig, so they're stiffer. But they flex well since they're so freakin' long. (63" = 5' 3"). You can usally find the springs at a lunkyard for around $100 for the pair. That's about $400 cheaper than either AllPro or AOR.

You will have to run a small block or add-a-leaf to get 4-5" lift from the chevy's, but they will still ride & flex very well, and won't sag under a light little toyota.

You have to remember that when you pull a spring from the junkyard it's already broken in, and won't sag like a brand new lift spring will.</font>
 
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