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My CJ is currently a non tail gate model.

I want to convert it to a tail gate.

Has anyone done this?
 

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swap tubs, not that it would be too hard to fab in a tailgate, but, I'm sure that there is somebody out there wishing that they had a cj without the tailgate, I know that I wish mine had no tailgate.
 

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well, for starters, I don't like the chains that bang and rattle, also the tailgate itself tends to bounce around and make noise too. I also prefer the cleaner look of the sans-tailgate jeeps, you know, the one-piece diamond plate rearend. The tubs without the tailgate alse tend to flex less than the ones with. The only thing that I like about jeeps with tailgates is when they are embossed the "WILLYS"
 

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I hear ya..

I Just think it would come in handy for things..

Never thought about the chains banging..
 

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Originally posted by HighHooder:
<STRONG>well, for starters, I don't like the chains that bang and rattle, also the tailgate itself tends to bounce around and make noise too. I also prefer the cleaner look of the sans-tailgate jeeps, you know, the one-piece diamond plate rearend. The tubs without the tailgate alse tend to flex less than the ones with. The only thing that I like about jeeps with tailgates is when they are embossed the "WILLYS"</STRONG>
Tom, I had a 70CJ5 with a tailgate. I quieted
down the chains a lot by slipping two bicycle
inner tubes over each chain. It helped a bunch.
 

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No tailgate means that you have to lift a cooler full of beer over the top. Makes my back hurt just thinking about it.

I have had both and prefer the one with Tailgate.
 

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only pic I have scanned.

I went to Collins Bros Jeep one Saturday and they were nice enough to let me in there parts section. Spent about half an hour measuring a tailgate vs a non tailgate vehicle. They are the exact same tub. just cut out the opening 36" wide and weld some .5"x.5" angle iron over the edges the same way the factory did it. the chain mounts to a piece of 1/4" or so steel welded to the outside edge of the angle iron.

I used a 47 willys tailgate on mine along with the hinges. Its really a no brainer.

I put a tailgate on mine cause the tire rack goes on top and I needed a way to put shit under it.
 

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TRhe tail gate allows the body to flex enough to make the welds between the inner fender wells and and rear floorboard to flex break. I just finished welding mine back together using a full welds so maybe it won't break again. If you decide to cut out and put in a tail gate I would suggest that you fully weld both sides.
 

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what year is your jeep that you broke the welds on? if its a 78 or newer that wouldn't surprise me. Mine has 13 body mounts (4 on the rear crossmember) so I dont think that will be an issue. besides, the welds broke before I had a tailgate. And its just the body, everything importants tied to the frame.
 

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The chain rattling problem is easy enough to fix. I took mine off and use some really small d-rings (like those used on a front bumper for extraction purposes) and bolt it shut. They're easy enough to unbolt and I have new chains with a hook on each end when I want the tailgate down for any length of time. I rarely open it though.
 

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wow.....I never thought that I would hear hooder talkin about diamond plate!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by HighHooder:
<STRONG>well, for starters, I don't like the chains that bang and rattle, also the tailgate itself tends to bounce around and make noise too. I also prefer the cleaner look of the sans-tailgate jeeps, you know, the one-piece diamond plate rearend. The tubs without the tailgate alse tend to flex less than the ones with. The only thing that I like about jeeps with tailgates is when they are embossed the "WILLYS"</STRONG>
I'll trade <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> My 2A tub doesn't have a gate, somewhere back along the lines it was replaced with sheetmetal and bondo <IMG SRC="smilies/eyemouth.gif" border="0">
I figured not having a rear gate will save me the time it takes to make a swingaway tire carrier.
 

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mine is a 48 CJ2A and it doesnt matter how many mounts you have their is no support at the outer edge of the rear fenders. With a one piece rear panel you have a ton more support than you do with a tail gate.
 

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Originally posted by Mike Klotz, aka MKBruin:
<STRONG>wow.....I never thought that I would hear hooder talkin about diamond plate!!!!!!!

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ah, but you have to remember, I live in the Pacific Northwest (reads rain-land) and stainless steel and aluminum diamond plate are both useful and in some cases necessary <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> I say diamond plate the dash, fenders, floor, pedals, rearend... did I miss anything? <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">
 

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It is a shame to alter your no tailgate tub. The no gate is a rare find, even though tough to deal with I guess.
 
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