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Have them installed and like them alot, but can't say I enjoyed putting them on...its tricky and about 30 mins a tire average...the first one took an hour then the rest went smoothe.....
 

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Those always looked like a great solution to me... though you won't be 'in style' without bolt-rim beaddies. <IMG SRC="smilies/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

I recollect that there's a shop in the states with exclusive distribution rights. Any idea who that is? Someone from east of the Mississippi, IIRC...

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Does anyone have more info about them??? I haven't seen them before and they look kind of interesting if they really do work.
 

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I was checking out the page in the link....those things are expensive. Does anyone know if the price is for the rims and all or just the internal part??? 15x10 or 12's are $769........
 

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that price does not include the rims. you have to modify your rims (drill another hole) for the bead locks.

I've tracked a lot of info on the web (web info - take it with a grain of salt), this is some of what I've heard:

plus:

locks both beads
can transfer from wheel to wheel
requires less air to air up and down
easier to balance
doesn't leak like many beadlocks

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expense
mounting is PITA
tube pinching can result in holed tube
I have HEARD that you get less 'pucker' on the tire because essentially you are running a run flat inner tube, which limits how much the tire is going to conform around rocks. This is the big negative to me

I've thought about these, and regular beadlocks, but so far my swampers haven't thrown a bead on me......
 

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You forgot one big one, you don't loose as much height when aired down, its the best of both worlds to me...the pinching happens when you don't use the talc at time of install and I bought mine from overseas where you get the value of a dollar, no warranty but who cares...the pucker or rock grip/conformality isn't the same but then again neither is the two inches under the pumkin that you gain...expensive yes, 100% 50 state legal yes, did it 5x and would do it again...won't talk about the balancing issue as you have a rubber plug that offsets allot of weight and you have to counter act that aspect...beadlocks are good but its all a matter of preference....
 

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I see your point (about not losing as much height aired down). I can see how that might offset the loss of 'pucker'. hard to say without testing it myself. Care to lend me yours so i can do some testing? Promise to post the results! <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
 

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I am really leaning towards this system
There isn't much there for 16.5x14

I e-mailed jds and here's their answer

"Your 16.5x14 wheels require a very wide liner which we have been working on improving. Because of that, I am not currently selling the kits for rims widder than 12". If you can use 12" wide rims, I can sell you the kit for $879.99 + frieght."


Coyote, you bought yours overseas, did you order directly from sweden?
I'm wondering on the price diff from jds ( shipping etc.)and hoping they might have them for 16.5x14
 

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looks like they do have them in the 16.5x14 in rim.
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4454,450.00 SEK Sweden Kronor=423.868 USD United States Dollars

I say order direct from sweden
only <IMG SRC="smilies/question.gif" border="0"> is how much shipping is
 

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Yep...I have had them before JD's was the distributor, I called them up and shipping wasn't bad, not sure if they signed an exclusive deal with JD's or what, sounds like they might be profitting highly if the sell....mine are 16.5 by 10's.....
 

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I have a friend who got them direct from Sweden about 5 or more years ago - and I know that since JD's got rights to distribute they kicked the price WAY up <IMG SRC="smilies/pissed.gif" border="0">

As far as pricing - they are not as expensive as you may think. Compare apples to apples - price out standard beadlocks with inner and outer locks and then see if that price is too expensive...

I would however not suggest them for anything smaller than a 38 - since the liner does take up some of the room, with smaller tires when aired down you will lose a good bit of your ability to comprtess the tire. The TireLoc's are great for larger tires.

plus, you can run them with any rim you have, or plan to get - just gotta drill the valve stem hole is all...

The bypass valve is easy to replicate, and the liner is actually a really simple design - if I could find a good material to make them out of I would try making my own <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
 

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I like the idea behind these, , but it sure seems expensive. Do you suppose it would be possible to make your own using an old low profile tire and a tube? Here's what I'm thinking. Stuff the low profile tire inside your big tire. It would be hard as hell to do this, but if the small tire were worn out and fairly pliable you might be able to do it. Then stuff a tube inside the small tire. You also need a some kind of bypass tube to allow you to air up the outer tire, but I wouldn't think it would be that hard to fashion. What do you guys think? Any reason why this wouldn't work?
 

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I considered the tire carcass idea myself...

But first, some theory <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">

The whole purpose of the liner is to "direct" the pressure of the inner tube to the sides, and not radially outward into the tire cavity.

That being said, technically anything that would direct the inner tube to press on the tire at the beads would work.

That being said, I think you *could* use an old tire carcass as your liner, but the biggest problem I see there would be weight. I think it would just be too heavy.

My thoughts were more for building the "C" carcass of the liner out of a good heavy canvass, and swe in a doubled section around the perimeter (what would be the tread area of a tire). Then slide in a sheet of thin but rigit plastic sheeting.

This would get you a liner, and *hopefully* the plastic sheeting would be able to be rigin enough to divert the pressure from the inner tube outwards towards the sidewall...

Any thoughts?
 

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Originally posted by Scout Dude:
<STRONG>Did you notice the---> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <--- that I put in there?

White Knight...This probably does not need to be said, but could you let use know what the Sweden place says? $500.00 doesn't seem to bad for beadlocks.</STRONG>
Yeah, I'll post the answer.

I wish we could get it here.

I'm putting these on 44" boggers
16.5x14 bart wheels
 
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