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My RE trackbar is toast.

Any reason not to replace it with a sleeved chromoly rod like my tierod and draglink ?

It's just nearly all aftermarket ones have at least one dogleg in them, I wondered why ?

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they are dog legged to keep apllied angles compartive to the angle of the drag link to reduce bump steer.
 

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Originally posted by Colin Scott Johnson:
<STRONG>My RE trackbar is toast.

Any reason not to replace it with a sleeved chromoly rod like my tierod and draglink ?

It's just nearly all aftermarket ones have at least one dogleg in them, I wondered why ?

Thanks

Colin</STRONG>
FYI RE has a new draglink that is the best I have seen so far. It uses a bracket to drop it down so it lays a lot flatter. It only has one small bend so I'd bet it would hold up much better than the older sytle.
 

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Colin,
with your steering setup, who knows?? Honestly, you'd have to cycle the suspension and see where things move...

I don't see any real problem with it on the surface. <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
 

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TH,

You'll need to explain that one to me <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
How does putting a dog leg in it reduce the angle ?
Surely a dog leg results in a steeper angle on the upright part ?

I have the new RE trackbar, it came with the long arm kit. It buckled like a coathanger on Barret Lake last weekend <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

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The dogleg lets the upper and lower joints run at more their intended near-90 degree angles, instead of taking off at 15-30 degrees or whatever.
I guess if you modified the upper trackbar mount so the anchor bolt was tilted down toward the axle end you could run a straight trackbar without wearing the ends too fast.
 

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Seth,
Yeah its a bit of a beast now <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
I guess with the RockRam something had to give and it chose the RE trackbar <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

I've asked around a few places and Joel of StageWest has built a few TJs and used a straight trackbar. I think CJ Lagos has a straight one on his too, so it can't be that bad.
It'll certainly be stronger if I make it straight and sleeve it like the tierod.

The RE bracket will put the rod end side on, so the flexing angle is front to back.
The axle bracket is the same so there's no angle to lose by going straight.

A traditional mount would have a problem, but RE already addressed this problem with the new bracket and by going to s sherical ball joint mounted side on instead of a TRE mounted vertically.

There's plenty of clearance so I guess I'll go for it.

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i you use a straight one w/ a tall lift youl jam the fukr and crack your mounting areas but what do i know.if they could make them straight they would do it because its a lot cheaper to do.

[ 09-16-2001: Message edited by: TRAILHAWG ]
 

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"i you use a straight one w/ a tall lift youl jam the fukr and crack your mounting areas but what do i know"
I dunno, what do you know ? <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
What am I gonna jam the fukr on ?

If the rod end is side on both mounts there's nothing to jam is there ?

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nevermind
 

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The dogleg in the top is to clear the diff cover during articulation when the driver side tire is up.

The lower end bend is to clear the trackbar axle mount when the pass. side tire is up.
 

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HB,

That's what I figured - the dog legs were for clearance with the stock steering system setup.

I don't have this problem, so a stright one it is <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

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The dog legs are also there to clear the actual bracket properly. A straight track bar on a TJ front end with the sway bar disco'ed would hit the top of the axle bracket, and depending on what you do at the frame, you might have problems there as well.
The problem is that cutting up the stock bracket weakens it, and relocating it anywhere that would maintain decent geometry is all but impossible with the stock spring perch and control arm brackets where they are.
 

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I have a custom made hybrid hp9"/D60/D70 axle that is nothing like a stock axle <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

There's nothing in the way on my one.

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Then you should have no problem making up a straight one, just make sure the bracket on the axle is as close in vertical and horizontal orientation to where the drag link pivots on the axle as possible. They can be quite a distance apart front to back (since the axle does not move that way much), but the pivot points should line up one behind the other as best you can. If not, there will be some bumpsteer since the axle will pull or push on the drag link as it cycles up and down.
 

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Originally posted by TJpwr:
<STRONG>Here we go with Bumpsteer again Collin.</STRONG>
It's those damned 4 linked things isnt it? <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">
 
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