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I think to the frame is better. The rig won't sway as much as if you just secure to the axles.

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you will put less stress on the straps that way, since the vehicles suspension wont be fighting it.

i have been doing it to the axles for a long time with no problems
 

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i do it to the axels and have no problems, sometimes i might run the winch back under to the rear tie down to sinch it down, jiMMy
 

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This has been well-discussed before:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65534&highlight=strap+chain+trailer
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77850&highlight=strap+chain+trailer
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44087&highlight=strap+chain+trailer
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54563&highlight=strap+chain+trailer

Most folks have their own particular way of doing it... I set mine up like this:
1.) chain back axle down to opposite rear corners (transit-rated chain)
2.) pull truck forward, tensioning chain
3.) ratchet strap front axle to each front corner
4.) put truck in neutral, tighten front axle straps
5.) ratchet straps on back axle, as well (safeties, not crossed)
6.) back in gear and parking brakes engaged
Check that straps are tight after 10 minutes, and at each fuel stop.

If it is a wildly flexy rig, secure the axles as above, then use the winch to pre-tension the front end and the safety ratchet straps to pre-tension the back end. Not to the bumpstops, just mid-travel... I've seen some folks pre-tension with a strap across the floorboards of the tub, as well.

There are simpler ways to do this -- but the gear is cheap enough, and it only takes maybe five minutes extra. Belt and suspenders, man!

Randii
 

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randii said:
This has been well-discussed before:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65534&highlight=strap+chain+trailer
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77850&highlight=strap+chain+trailer
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44087&highlight=strap+chain+trailer
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54563&highlight=strap+chain+trailer

Most folks have their own particular way of doing it... I set mine up like this:
1.) chain back axle down to opposite rear corners (transit-rated chain)
2.) pull truck forward, tensioning chain
3.) ratchet strap front axle to each front corner
4.) put truck in neutral, tighten front axle straps
5.) ratchet straps on back axle, as well (safeties, not crossed)
6.) back in gear and parking brakes engaged
Check that straps are tight after 10 minutes, and at each fuel stop.

If it is a wildly flexy rig, secure the axles as above, then use the winch to pre-tension the front end and the safety ratchet straps to pre-tension the back end. Not to the bumpstops, just mid-travel... I've seen some folks pre-tension with a strap across the floorboards of the tub, as well.

There are simpler ways to do this -- but the gear is cheap enough, and it only takes maybe five minutes extra. Belt and suspenders, man!

Randii
thanx i was lazy and going out the door so i posted to get answers when i got back..i read all links and all the info any one ever needed was there..it was good reading i did not even think about the tongue weight, i will have to load the toy and check the weight, now that was 10 to 15% of the total weight of the trailer with rig on it?? the trailer i got has surge breaks most say electric is better but the trailer i got has surge any advice??
 

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depending on the application surge is better then electric and vice versa,Pro's: electric's wear out faster then hydraulic discs, the discs can take more heat before fading, and are good for light changing loads like a delivery trailer or similar, and are better at resisting water on boat trailers.
Cons: cant use a sway system with surge or a weight distributing hitch with surge brakes, bitch to back up unless locked out, cost 2x what electric brakes cost, in a panic stop you cant hit a manual lever to apply 100% braking power, lots of slop in the hitch because the coupler has to slide to activate the master cylinder.

~Nate~
 
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