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That's your opinion, nothing factual or first hand knowledge with CR 5.9s. Just "I talk to people".
Well, if I've been seeing all these sharp CR trucks running around, thinking it'd be nice to have one, and I turn to my right, and ask my trusted co worker, a fellow diesel mechanic, how he likes his, and he responds that he loves it, other than it had a failed injector and a washed cylinder at 120k miles. I don't know if I'd need to actually have paid the bill with my first hand to have any better knowledge of that particular situation, now multiply that over a dozen or so conversations with a dozen or so owners.

I own a 3rd gen gas truck, it was a wreck I rebuilt, I've driven it, sat in the seats, I've had parts and pieces of the interior out, compared to my 2nd gen trucks, the early 3rd gen interior quality is shit, first hand.

I've seen enough of a trend, watching closely, that I'm not spending my money on them, I'm buying 1st and 2nd gen dodges, 7.3 psds and an lly duramax, with my money, 1st hand
 

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Aren't there guys piecing together p-pumped 24v headed common rail 5.9 and 6.7 engines? Seems like that would be a solid performer. On the other hand, I like my 4th gen in it's stock configuration. It works way better than any other older truck I've had or used. I recall using my dads 01 24 valve 4x4 for the first time thinking "this is way better than my 91 in every way, it rides so nice, what a nice truck". Then, after I had my 15 for a while and then used my dad's truck I thought, "this truck is really a rough riding and uncomfortable turd". It's perspective I guess, but the new trucks really are nice. They do everything better than the older ones. I put 90k on my 15 in less than 4 years, only problem I had was the left rear wheel seal started to leak. I liked it enough to get a new 18 so I could get the newest manual trans truck I could before they were gone.
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Aren't there guys piecing together p-pumped 24v headed common rail 5.9 and 6.7 engines? Seems like that would be a solid performer. On the other hand, I like my 4th gen in it's stock configuration. It works way better than any other older truck I've had or used. I recall using my dads 01 24 valve 4x4 for the first time thinking "this is way better than my 91 in every way, it rides so nice, what a nice truck". Then, after I had my 15 for a while and then used my dad's truck I thought, "this truck is really a rough riding and uncomfortable turd". It's perspective I guess, but the new trucks really are nice. They do everything better than the older ones. I put 90k on my 15 in less than 4 years, only problem I had was the left rear wheel seal started to leak. I liked it enough to get a new 18 so I could get the newest manual trans truck I could before they were gone.
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I once had a 6.7L come in with a bad rod bearing at 20k. They're all junk, Ive never owned one, my friend said so.

Replace the 6.7L water pump with a 5.9L with the weep hole. I saw way too many were the bearing would go, throw the belt, then take out the $400+ fan clutch and leave you stranded.
 

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Some of y'all get pissy when someone's opinion doesn't match yours.

Since we're at it, I bought an extremely clean, but very rolled over 95 4wd dodge at auction, used the engine tranny and t case to build my f350 and parted out the rest. Being a clean truck, I had lots of interest in the rest of the pieces. 2 of the buyers I'd met, each had both a 2nd gen and a 3rd gen truck, both were unloading the 3rd gen truck, one lemmon law, one just wanting rid of it, both were basically restoring the 2nd gen to keep it in service.

I've had enough 1st hand conversations like that that I keep them at arms length. About '14 or '15, maybe a little earlier, they seemed to really be sorted out. I'm watching them, maybe I'll consider picking one up in a few years. And I'll come in here and ask for opinions:laughing:
 

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That's your opinion, nothing factual or first hand knowledge with CR 5.9s. Just "I talk to people".
I'll sum this up for you. Since you've been quoting me, swinging on my nuts, and dismissing my dissenting opinions and experiences as not facts, because I've never actually owned one of these trucks. Opinions were asked for, opinions were given. Mine was an outlier. Every diesel truck I've ever bought was sold at a profit, or driven, worked and then sold at a profit. I've never bought a 3rd gen CR truck, and don't intend to. You do you boo boo. I'm out :rolleyes:
 

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Ughh went in to adjust the drum brakes, and the need axle seal, shoes, and drum is full of oil again. Got good rockauto parts but paid somr Joe Schmoe from craigslist to change them, should have taken it to a shop. So there go another few hundred bucks, or more if I dont have the time to do it myself. I hope its not the axle bearings, more $$

Temptation to sell is strong!
 

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Well starve vp44 for 30 seconds and it cost u 5k. There r issues with each generation. Some need to be addressed like going to a 3 micron fuel filter. My first set of injectors lasted 120k on a factory 10 micron. Second set went 200k on 3 micron and i think thats a perfectly reasonable service life. The issue with the heads is some drop seats. Not sure what percentage it is but seems to happen more on aftermarket big turbo trucks.

The third gens are quiter, ride better, have more available power, but are more expensive to fix. Those are fact.

I have 360k on a third gen and its much more enjoyable to drive then my 2nd gen was. Thats my opinion.
This is the issue with older trucks, a VP-44 is a couple hour job, with I’d call normal garage tools. $1500 at most. Shops charge $5k, scares the idiots away.
 

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I see 400k mile 12v and 24v trucks all the time, and 140k 03-06 trucks on their 2nd engine being dumped, every common rail truck has new injectors at 120k, and a reoccurring theme of a 2500 long bed crew 2wd in a rural area with a dead hole and the 6 speed in pieces in a milk crate, with 200k. Probably 200k of pulling a stock trailer, but still, cashed out. 3rd gen seems to have way shittier interior too.



I have no interest in a 3rd gen



Make yours nice, or ford swap your drive train, or cash in and buy a 6.2 gas f250
I love my 3rd gen, but you're right. I split an injector on a family vacation and roasted my #6 cylinder rings, resulting in a full engine rebuild, new injectors and a new clutch (only because they were pulling the engine anyway). $9000 later it's good as new. Sure ot lasted me 15 years but it was only at 129k miles when it happened. Keep what you have. I love my 3rd gen, but it's an unhealthy attachment I have.

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I've owned 4 3rd gen 5.9s. All close to 200k, still tow regularly with one at 200k and 240k. Never touched the engines besides a $40 water pump.



That injector talk is he said she said internet folklore. Or idiots turning their bag of chips to eleven. Its blown of of proportion.



Both the nv5600 and g56 need to be overfilled by a quart through the shift tower. The dual mass g56 flywheel is a piece of shit and by now shouldve been replaced. The 48re need the bands adjusted. The 03-04.5 engines have less emissions bs and more comfortable seats, but shitty dashes. The 04.5-07 has goofy cams and cats, but that wont cause an issue, dash wont crack. The hvac sucks and needs all blend door replaced with metal ones to the tune of $300.



I've never touched an AAM unit bearing. Ball joints 200-220k. Steering joints back and forth depending on use. Ujoint as well. Solid tow rigs.
See my previous post. My truck was bone stock in the engine department and I split and injector which fucked my #6 rings. Maybe I'm a 1 off issue but still it happened to me and cost me 9k for a rebuild and injectors

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Ughh went in to adjust the drum brakes, and the need axle seal, shoes, and drum is full of oil again. Got good rockauto parts but paid somr Joe Schmoe from craigslist to change them, should have taken it to a shop. So there go another few hundred bucks, or more if I dont have the time to do it myself. I hope its not the axle bearings, more $$

Temptation to sell is strong!
I know this temptation very well but an 03 is not going to improve anything just make available a whole slew of problems you aren’t eligible to have with a 12v truck. The 12v is really the only motor that ever came in a pickup that is timeless as it can make the power and beat the efficiency and reliability of a new diesel. Loud and stinky but better in every other way by a long ways. In my opinion everything else until the last few years is just too old. 5.9 cr trucks in my experience were great but they are money pits by now and not particularly reliable solely due to age. I’m down to pre 97 Fummins or brand new myself. If axel seals are pushing you over the edge you really need a less than 50k mile truck to get a break because a grand in repairs is routine in anything after 97 and pre nowish.
 

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If axel seals are pushing you over the edge you really need a less than 50k mile truck to get a break because a grand in repairs is routine in anything after 97 and pre nowish.
thanks for the reality check, just been a busy summer and I am being a little bitch. Should stop whining and fix it, since everyone seems to swear by the 12valve. thanks..
 

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