Thanks, that is what I was looking for since they are on sale with free shipping at PSA.The 2MOA dot is definitely an advantage in my opinion.
I beat on one for a while and only had one issue where it self adjusted after taking a hard hit when getting grounded at a highly physical match. For the money you really can't go wrong.
How is it worthless? That is one thing I'm interested in since I didn't realize they came with one when I looked at them. I suppose position could have a big effect on whether it works for you or not, and I'm curious as to where you had it mounted?The 2x is worthless. I use a sparc on my 54 cal inline and love it. Best bang for your buck sight imho.