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I need to know if a rear waggy Dana 44 is 30 spline? Im sure it is but I wanna know for sure, also in the 80-say 87 waggys are there any width differences I got my front off an 86 waggy and Im gonna go back to the junk yard and try to find a waggy rear that will match my front any thing I should worry about or look for? <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">
 

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Yep, they're all 30 spline. Waggy rears from 80-early 86 are all AMC model 20's, not Dana 44s. Late 86 through 91 is where you'll find a 44 rear. All of them are about 3" narrower than the fronts. Not to worry though.
 

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Why spend the time to put a 44 in the rear?
Look at a IH travelall or a mid 60's Ford F100 and get a 60 that is 5X5.5. my .02
 

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Originally posted by 66CJdean:
<STRONG>Why spend the time to put a 44 in the rear?
Look at a IH travelall or a mid 60's Ford F100 and get a 60 that is 5X5.5. my .02</STRONG>

Not sure if you are aware, but the Travellall Dana60 is a 30 spline semi-floater. Not much strength gain except for ring gearand pinion size and tube size over the Dana44, and you lose a bunch of clearance unless you shave it. I have a Travellall Dana60 in the back yard that I'm planning on putting in the back of my Jeep. Eventually, when and if I break the 30 spline shafts (I wended the carrier, so I'm more likely to break it, but I'll have some FUN doing it!), I'll cut the ends off the tubes, weld on some Ford 9" big bearing outers and replace the carrier with a full 35 spline spool. I've heard they make a racing application 40 spline Dana60 spool, but have yet to confirm. 40 spline shafts would SURE be nice. 35 spline SHOULD be fine for the wheeling I do, but 40 IS more than 35...
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I'm not for sure on what the old school F100 would have.

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all pre 80 wagoneers had 44's, alot easier to find then the newer waggy's. The cherokee cheis had wider axles so watch out for those. Also some f-100 2wd had dana 44's, and scouts do also. The last 2 will need to be redrilled to match your 6 lug front
 

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cmegoup said:
Yep, they're all 30 spline. Waggy rears from 80-early 86 are all AMC model 20's, not Dana 44s. Late 86 through 91 is where you'll find a 44 rear. All of them are about 3" narrower than the fronts. Not to worry though.
Ditto. '87-'91 is the way to go if you're swapping both front and rear 44s. That way you get the rear 44 and the front 44 with driver-side diff without the axle disco.

I used 44s off of an '87 and if there is a 3-inch difference, it's unnoticable...

66CJdean said:
Why spend the time to put a 44 in the rear?
I did it because it's a cheap way to match the 6-bolt waggy front and I wanted Ox lockers front and rear... :)

HTH,
Jake Harsha
Hunt Technologies Inc.
Pequot Lakes, MN
 

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Got my rear 44 to match my front waggy off an 88 today its clean and very complete so Im ready to put it all together after and good re-build
 

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66CJdean said:
Why spend the time to put a 44 in the rear?
Look at a IH travelall or a mid 60's Ford F100 and get a 60 that is 5X5.5. my .02
Probably because they have the same size (1.31") axle shafts as a Dana 44. Why loose ground clearance to have the same strength shafts?
 

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Probably because they have the same size (1.31") axle shafts as a Dana 44. Why loose ground clearance to have the same strength shafts?
True, I have a 30 spline 60 from a 67 Ford P/U right now...but by this springs, I will have 35 spline axles and a spool. Also, I hear the the older D60's are 16 spline not even 30...watch out for that.

However, with the new 33 spline axles coming out, if you don't need the R & P strength, then stick with a 44.
 

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Alot of D 60's are 30 spline 35 spline are rare unless they are HD but the main thing is that the spindles measure out to be 1.5 and a 16th of an inch more in order for the 60 to fit 35 spline shafts if not they can still be bored out.. But the easiest fix is to put different ends on them you can go ford 9 ends then do the Moser 40 spline shafts there nice or just go 35 spline. I say 60 in the rear, F that 44 in the rear go big....
 
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