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We are new to the forum & need help with choosing tow vehicles, trailers & nudist campsites?

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My husband and I just joined the forum and I didn't see an intro section so we will just start here and hope it is ok.
We are approaching our retirement (next year) and looking forward to hitting the road and starting a new project. We are also active nudists for over 25 years now and that plays a big part in our travel plans as you will read below.
Job #1 for you 4 x 4 members...Help us choose the best tow vehicle to best suit our needs and give us the move trouble free trail experiences. We hope to spend much of the spring, summer, and fall of 2024 on the road finding camp site that are acceptable to nudist and clothing optional camping, visiting both main road campgrounds and also find those (little known) back roads campsites.
Job #2...Help us choose a camping trailer to full our needs as we travel the USA and Canada. We hope to be in the area of 17'-20' / single axle, but need your help.
Job #3...Help us find those campsites that we can visit and record on our podcast to share with other nudist or anyone else who has interest.
Well this is a start and we will certainly post more information as this thread moves along but in the meantime feel free to ask us anything you would like to help you share your experiences with any of the above.
Thanks for reading and have a great day!
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OK, The same questions has been asked in our mailbox so I am just going to say WTH since I have already had 2 beers, I am going to answer it right here in the thread. The questions are, "what size are my tits and are they real?"
I started developing when I was 11 and by the time I was a JR in HS I was already a large "C" and I graduated HS with "Ds". And they didn't stop there LOL. In my early 20s I had 33Gs and only being 5'1" and 105# you could say I was all tits LOL. After having a couple of kids, I decide to have them firmed up but not enlarged. (my husband was pissed). The last i measured I was a 35G.
F450 and haul the world. I bought a 2016 new and put 340k on it with no issues then traded it in on a 2020 and now have 226k and no issues.
is a 450 a 1 ton? My husband brought up the idea and the more I think about it, I like it. Then I can order what I want in a wrangler asap!
F450 and haul the world. I bought a 2016 new and put 340k on it with no issues then traded it in on a 2020 and now have 226k and no issues.
plenty of power and room in the trailer for a rear garage.
is a 450 a 1 ton? My husband brought up the idea and the more I think about it, I like it. Then I can order what I want in a wrangler asap!
It’s 1.5 ton. They have a wider front axle which helps them turn way sharper than a regular 1 ton or any pickup in fact.
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It’s 1.5 ton. They have a wider front axle which helps them turn way sharper than a regular 1 ton or any pickup in fact.
are they the same size as a 1 ton except for that. Mr said a flat bed would be the best and maybe one the could carry the bikes ahead of the 5th wheel
are they the same size as a 1 ton except for that. Mr said a flat bed would be the best and maybe one the could carry the bikes ahead of the 5th wheel
Yup, just a lil wider up front. I don’t know about putting the bikes up front. Even with a long bed the over hang from the trailer will take up a lot of the bed. But I guess you won’t know till you can take some measurements or try it out.
Yup, just a lil wider up front. I don’t know about putting the bikes up front. Even with a long bed the over hang from the trailer will take up a lot of the bed. But I guess you won’t know till you can take some measurements or try it out.
or leave the bikes at home and by a 4x4 that would fit in the rear garage for the fun stuff. Plus we would have the exra sleeping room in the back if our kids joined us along the way.
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I can't believe I AM SAYING THIS....: a side by side and 2 Harley's would fit a toy hauler/camper.. and get you guys off the beaten path....
I can't believe I AM SAYING THIS....: a side by side and 2 Harley's would fit a toy hauler/camper..
Sxs’s are the devil! A three axle toy hauler with a Jeep and two bikes would be prime.
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I hate side by sides. I make good money welding them back together, but fack those things in my opinion. Hence the " can't believe I am saying this "
Sometimes I sicken myself to the point of making Billy goats puke 😉
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I can't believe I AM SAYING THIS....: a side by side and 2 Harley's would fit a toy hauler/camper.. and get you guys off the beaten path....
not sure we would need both on the same trip. switch back and forth depending on where we go.
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A 1 ton diesel dually 4x4 with a slide in camper would allow you to get back in the woods with your camper, tow a trailer or Jeep behind that with no issue. I have 430K on my 07 Duramax diesel and I take that waaay back in the woods sometimes on nothing more than a cow path. The other option would be a motor home rated to pull a Jeep so you would have comfort in a campground and could take the Jeep deeper in the woods for tent camping.
Only Truggied 1-tons fit around here. And never with a Camper. Not off the main trails anyways. And the sweet spots aren't on the main trails.
Have you guys considered a truck camper? That’s what my family of 4 chose. You can get pretty much anywhere with one and you don’t have to worry about pulling a trailer. This is our set up when I had finished slapping it all together. It’s a palomino ss1251, 2012 gas f250, random flatbed I bought from the oil fields and modified for the camper, and some ebay boxes. We spent about 30 nights in it last year. I tow a trailer on forest roads a lot for work and it sucks. I’d rather do this any day. My wife doesn’t mind driving either, I know a trailer would bother her driving across the country. Palominos are not the best quality, in fact I have to replace my lift motors because one of them broke at the plastic gear and I found that the manufacturer of the motor now makes them with a metal gear (first year for a new lift design to prevent water getting into the motor). But it’s hard to beat the price when you can buy two palominos for the price of one four wheel camper. You just have to be able to tinker a little to work through their problems.
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A 1 ton diesel dually 4x4 with a slide in camper would allow you to get back in the woods with your camper, tow a trailer or Jeep behind that with no issue. I have 430K on my 07 Duramax diesel and I take that waaay back in the woods sometimes on nothing more than a cow path. The other option would be a motor home rated to pull a Jeep so you would have comfort in a campground and could take the Jeep deeper in the woods for tent camping.
Hi Biotec and thanks for the ideas. With respect to your slide in camper idea, I think Mr. and I both agree that is not the direction we want to go. The step-in height seems to be uncomfortable and (on a 4 wheel drive truck the center of gravity seems high as well. Open to further discussion on it though. At this point nothing is totally out.
Happy Wednesday everyone and it looks (feels) like we are headed to warmer temps. I actually thought Mr. was replying to the posts but I guess he was just reading them last night. Hope the rest of the week goes well for everyone. Just taking a quick lunch break and then back to work.
Have you guys considered a truck camper? That’s what my family of 4 chose. You can get pretty much anywhere with one and you don’t have to worry about pulling a trailer. This is our set up when I had finished slapping it all together. It’s a palomino ss1251, 2012 gas f250, random flatbed I bought from the oil fields and modified for the camper, and some ebay boxes. We spent about 30 nights in it last year. I tow a trailer on forest roads a lot for work and it sucks. I’d rather do this any day. My wife doesn’t mind driving either, I know a trailer would bother her driving across the country. Palominos are not the best quality, in fact I have to replace my lift motors because one of them broke at the plastic gear and I found that the manufacturer of the motor now makes them with a metal gear (first year for a new lift design to prevent water getting into the motor). But it’s hard to beat the price when you can buy two palominos for the price of one four wheel camper. You just have to be able to tinker a little to work through their problems. View attachment 3128996
Nice set up EJXJ, A truck with flatbed is something we are considering however not sold on the camper type yet. We would probably try to find a truck with a standard cab to get more length for the bed . Is your a dually or just single drive wheels. Need help in that area guys. Are duals needed?
Only Truggied 1-tons fit around here. And never with a Camper. Not off the main trails anyways. And the sweet spots aren't on the main trails.
and we want to get to those sweet spots for sure. The main road clothing optional campgrounds everyone knows about already anyway. BTW, checking out some neat cabin sites along with the campsites works for us too.
TOGTFO!

Wood smash OP.

International tow pig with a Red neck hauler attached and a SxS loaded up if money isn’t much of a concern.

that is my contribution.
You might find this useful:


Liberal slant, expect to be gas lighted or deleted in the comment section if you do not follow the narrative. To sum it up, all new RVs are junk. If you buy a new one, have this put in writing on the sales contract: “We warranty this RV to you for 3 days.”

Try Harvest Hosts too.

tow vehicle:
1 ton, DRW, 4x4, diesel, automatic, cruise control, AC, 8 foot bed. Lockers front and rear would not hurt. Same with front and rear winches.

Pull whatever RV trailer you want, carry one of these in the bed, especially if you buy a Ford F-450. A mini truck that is street legal, that you can take on local trails and down to the beaches. Use as a back up in case the tow vehicle dies on the side of the road. Take it from the camp ground to local stores so you do not have to leave your campsite, beats a toad.


Whatever you buy, invest in a good alarm and anti-thief system along with things such as a Tile (or air tag) stuffed into the truck, RV, and mini-truck. pacLocks for keyed locks and for combo locks Abus 190/60CS series 2.

Some camp grounds do not allow vehicles and RVs older then 10 years.

That being said, I would go old school and get a 1980s-1993.5 Ford F-250 or F-350 7.3L and invest my money into something easy and cheap to repair. But, any of the newer diesels will far outstrip it in both power, MPG, and payload. A loaded F-450 is likely to hit $100,000. A clean refurbished 1993 F-350 DRW, no so much.
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