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I am on a budget, and need to purchase these two items. I'm going to be doing some light to moderate fab work for my project, IE roll cage, shock hoops, rock sliders, stuff like that. nothing bigger than 2" OD. As for the welder, same type of stuff. the thickest ill prolly be welding is 1/4" thick tubes and plate. so what should i buy?

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find someone who has them and is good w/ them and make friends then u don't have to spend the money and end up doin a shitty job
 

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id rather learn to do it myself and not have to rely on somebody else to do it right... i know what i want, and it can be very hard to transfer ideas verbally and on paper sometimes

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Originally posted by the kid in the hall:
<STRONG>I am on a budget, and need to purchase these two items. I'm going to be doing some light to moderate fab work for my project, IE roll cage, shock hoops, rock sliders, stuff like that. nothing bigger than 2" OD. As for the welder, same type of stuff. the thickest ill prolly be welding is 1/4" thick tubes and plate. so what should i buy?

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for the bender williams low buck tools has some cheap tube benders capable of more than 90 degrees with no tube deformities as does pro tools mechanical benders these benders take some time to create the bend as opposed to hydraulic but the rewards are worth it. as for the welder just about any 110 wire welder will do shop around for one with the highest duty cycle the miller xp130 comes to mind be sure to get a gas conversion for it <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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got links and/or prices to these benders?

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yep the pro tools is www.pro-tools.com its the mechanical 105 ive got the pro shot . Total cost wasdnt that much different at all the williams low buck tools I dont have just go to search engine on that one <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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thanks, the 105 looks bitchin!!!!!! is it worth the cost? i made out a price sheet here and for the bender, stop and degree ring, stand, handle extension, and 6" radius 240 deg 2" die comes out to $684. really not so bad, how long do you expect yours to last? i figure that if it will last a good long time i will buy this, and down the road i can just add the hydro kit to it <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

for welders, i was looking at 175A ones from Miller, Hobart, and Chicago Electric. here are the specs:

Duty cycle: Miller- 30%
Hobart- 30%
Chicago E- 16% (ouch!)

Cost: Miller- $777 direct
Hobart- $639 NorthernTool
Chicago E- $499 HarborFreight

the CE is 170A, all can do 1/4" single pass.

is the miller worth the extra $140 over the Hobart?

I'll look into Lincoln and see what they offer, any other suggestions?

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id rather be welding and bending up a roll cage, but i dont got a bender or welder cuz o you <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0">
 

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My Lincoln SP-125 Plus cost me $700 and some change and the JD2 Model 3 with degree ring and 1.75" die ran $524 just to give you an idea. I bought the welder from a local place and the bender I ordered through MTech.
 

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miller is definetly worth the extra cash. On the die I would go with a larger radius die probably a 7" with the 6" the tubing has to stretch so much that there may be a slight flat place on the outside of the tube. I think the bender will last a lifetime! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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sorry about the triple-reply every1, my computer <IMG SRC="smilies/nuke.gif" border="0"> and somehow sent it 3 times... <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0">
 

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will the 105 model bend .120 thickness? It mentions.095, i think. I was curious since i am looking for a decent bender also. thanks
 

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I bought a century 230 arc , From home depot for $270 canadian , and yesterday I bought a tube bender from Princess Auto for $149 canadian . Both machines work great. My bender bends clean and has 6 dies from 1/2" to 2" . www.princessauto.com
usa$$$ will go alot farther than canadian $$$ also.
 

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the 105 will bend upto .134 wall dom but you will need to upgrade I think 50.00 for the 5/8" arms rather than the 1/2" <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
 

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Do not buy a chicago electric they break and they SUCK! <IMG SRC="smilies/flipoff.gif" border="0">
 

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On the tripple reply just delete 2 of them and www.jd2.com has a great price on their bender. As far as the welder goes I would go get a 100amp alternator and build an onboard welder for yourself. The post is on this BB. That will kill 2 birds with one stone.
 

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Originally posted by KEVZUKI:
<STRONG>I bought a century 230 arc , From home depot for $270 canadian , and yesterday I bought a tube bender from Princess Auto for $149 canadian . Both machines work great. My bender bends clean and has 6 dies from 1/2" to 2" . www.princessauto.com
usa$$$ will go alot farther than canadian $$$ also.</STRONG>
Hey dude that $149 is a pipe not tube bender, So your saying it bent tube ok.

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