[wheatfield]

Ok I just spent the last 1.5 hrs at the DMV and then talking to a Kansas Hwy Patrol Officer to get all of my info. I now have have some questions for you all. The Kansas law is that the tag on the trailer has to be high enough rated to cover the weight on the trailer axles, the tag on the truck has to be high enough rated to cover the total GCW. For me to do this I would need a 26K tag on my truck and pay and extra $270.00 per year just for the tag.

The set up is a 03 Ram Cummins 3500 dually 12k GVWR with two Jeeps on a 34' low boy goose neck with tandem 8k axles and 16k GVWR. The trailer has a 16k tag and the truck has a 12k tag. The weight works out to between 10.5k and 11.5k on the truck axles and between 13.5k and 14.5k on the trailer axles. If the trailer is towards the heavy end the truck will be towards the ligher end and vice versa.

Now for the question, if I am rolling down I-70 headed to Moab in either KS, CO, or UT, get pulled over and the officer weighs the rig, looks at the tags, and gives me a ticket will they make me unhook the trailer and leave it for a "under tag violation"?

In KS the "under tag violation" is a $40.00 fine with a $60.00 court cost.

I also do alot of work in an area where the streets are Blvds and have no truck signs, if I were to get a 26k tag I could then be given a ticket for driving on a Blvd even when empty and not towing any thing.

I will pay the ticket I just don't want to have to leave the load.

Thanks for your input.
Scott

 

[7938]

Hmmmmm, good question. I would say it depends on the cop and your attitude. If you have the correct tags on the trailer it looks like you are trying to be legit. Maybe act stupid about it?? Tell the cop it is a borrowed trailer and this is the only time you have used it. FWIW, I never worry about this but I only pull an 18' bumper trailer and it doesn't have a tag.

 

[wheatfield]

Since I posted this I have also found out the the city I live in has a code that states any truck taged over 18k cannot be parked at a residential address for more than 48 hours and can only be there for two 48 hour periods per month.

I was thinking the same about the dealing with the officer thing.
I would be nice (as I am always nice) and I would say I thought with 18k trailer tags and 12k truck tags I was covered, guess I am wrong sorry.

I just seem to be in a no win situation, if I cannot be made to dump my load for being under taged I am staying as I am know
12k on truck 18k on trailer. Thanks KS Toy for the input.

Scott

 

[Mechanos]

...Tell the cop it is a borrowed trailer and this is the only time you have used it...

Yeah, that might work for about 2 minutes.... until the cop runs the trailer plate and finds out that it IS registered to him. Then he's really pissed off for being lied to and writes him a stack of citations for everything he can think of.

 

[drasko]

Just move to olathe. Noone cares. I have a stack of jeep and a 60 SF rear along with a second rockwell rear out in the backyard while i am doin my frame work.
We all have low standards here

 

[wheatfield]

We (my wife and I) are looking at getting some land over in MO.
I am form over there so I have low standards too.

Scott

 

[muddobber40]

I think it is how the cop is too. I got pulled over a few days ago ( no trailer tag, borrowed)with 2, 1 tons on a 40 ft gooseneck and all he was interested in was to make sure it was not stolen and then wanted to look at the trucks. Oh, yeah my truck only has a 12k tag on it too, 04.5 Dodge CTD, DRW, Quad CAB.

 

[wheatfield]

Thanks for the info mud, I am more worried about the Hyw P-trol
out on the interstate. Hows that new 600 run?

Scott

 

[nosliw]

i don't know if you have the option or not in KS, but i put farm tags on my F-250. max. limit is 38,000 lbs. i just had to sign something saying i work/operate/own a farm.

 

[Bmf24]

so you go and plant some tomattos in the back yard. thered your farm.
not knowing what the tags look like, can you tell by looking? if you cant tell what they are rated for by looking, then why would you get pulled over? just dont speed too much you shouldnt have a problem.

 

[muddobber40]

Thanks for the info mud, I am more worried about the Hyw P-trol



Actually, it was a state trooper. 600 runs great. This is my first Cummins and I am pretty sure I won't ever by anything else. I was pulling a 18 foot bumper pull with a military 1 ton on it and I couldn't tell it was back there. Never had to downshift at all going through the hills in AR and TN. Fuel mileage blows compared to the previous HO's only got 11 loaded, 14 empty