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Yes its a BJ 60, 1982 3B Diesel 4 spd tranny.

Bought this thing sight unseen from an uncle of my wife in Canada, towed it home last night (broken input shaft in Helena...)

Sweetheart looks at it and says "NO WAY"

Coming out of salt country the body is sporting some considerable rust, upper and lower tailgates are gone (looking for a set???) and the rear wheel wells and rear quaters are also gone (sawzall time !!). The interior is very good.

Whats this thing worth, in various leves of repair ? I will do a legal importation, have done them before and knoe the drill..

Some thoughts.

Fix the 4spd, replace the tailgates, remove rust with saw and drive/sell

Replace the 4spd with a 5 spd (looking for one ???) as above DRIVE/sell ?

Buy a high millage 60 and do a driveline/interior swap. Worth it ? The only way to get a good body.

Buy a FJ40 and do a drive line swap. Could be interesting if done right.

What I would like to do. Swap the 4 for a 5spd and drive it.

What mairrage counselor will tell me to do. Sell it fast.

Other thoughts ?


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Honestly-

It is a parts truck and I would not waste time searching for tailgates etc. The tranny input you could find used, but you must ask "why did it break?". Big issues could lie within that gearbox.

40 driveline is an option, but how well does the engine run? I don't want to get into the FJ60 price thing, but search around and you will find dozens for sale. 3B is a better 40 engine anyway. Sorry for the bad news.
 

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Don't know what you paid for it, but I would have to agree with rick d that it is a parts truck.

I wouldn't think it's worth putting all the money for importation and fixing it up given its mechanical and body condition.

Personally, I think the 3B engine is a little under-powered for a big boat like a 60 series wagon (I drive a BJ70 and it's just adequate).

If you had found a HJ60 then it would be a litte different situation.

If it was my truck I'd pull the 3B and diesel accessories and put them in a FJ40 or try to sell them.

Good Luck (if you decide to sell the engine, harness, and other diesel accessories let me know what you are asking ).

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[ 09-23-2001: Message edited by: Cruiserhaven ]
 

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i'd have to agree with the other guys; it's parts is parts!
if you want to get it running and sell it just buy another 4spd and slam it! they're dirt cheap and easy to find.
transfering the running gear into a 40 is somewhat of an undertaking. if you're gonna run the 60 axles in a 40 you'd have to outboard the springs. and fix the trans still!
i'd bone that one out!

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I at least want the thing driving before I make a decision. I was under the imprseeion, (maybe wrongly) that the input shaft used on the 3B trannys was different ? Is this true ? If not what am I looking for ?

My first cruiser and I don't even have a shop manual yet...

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Originally posted by squeezer:
<STRONG>I at least want the thing driving before I make a decision. I was under the imprseeion, (maybe wrongly) that the input shaft used on the 3B trannys was different ? Is this true ? If not what am I looking for ?

My first cruiser and I don't even have a shop manual yet...

Chris</STRONG>
I think you are right. When I was shopping for a non-us 5spd for my Fj60 I had to make sure it wasn't from a diesel because the input shafts were different. I think you will need to either rebuild your tranny or locate a replacement one that is from a diesel.
 

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Alright, I actually got up off my lazy ass and looked it up. Here's what the Rob Mullen FAQ says:

"The transmissions for B diesels
use a 1-1/2" longer input shaft with different splines and will not mate to
either an F or H series engine."

So it looks like you would need to rebuild or find one from another B diesel.

HTH.
 

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Interestingly enough I just put a 1982 BJ60 rear end into my FJ40....yesterday in fact.
I spent 7 bucks in brake line fittings and 19 for a new mini rear hose. the install was a breeze and the rear brakes seem happy with my stock 1969 master cylinder. (plenty of pressure, no binding or drag)
 

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Parts truck...
As for the "I'll do a legal importation", don't you mean "I'll gray market it"? You can't do a 100% legal importation once the vehicle is inside the US, there has to be *some* fudging from the rules. Personally, I don't mind gray market, even dark ones, just clarifying for others.
 

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Originally posted by 60seriesguy:
<STRONG>Parts truck...
As for the "I'll do a legal importation", don't you mean "I'll gray market it"? You can't do a 100% legal importation once the vehicle is inside the US, there has to be *some* fudging from the rules. Personally, I don't mind gray market, even dark ones, just clarifying for others.</STRONG>
60seriesguy...you almost know what you are talking about.
There is a provision in the laws for a Canadian to recieve a vehicle as a gift from an immediate familly member. Lucky enough for me my lovely wife is a Canadian and even luckier her brother just happened to want to give her a diesel cruiser... I have brought two vehicles into the US this way and it is a full legal importation NOT GRAY MARKET. And yes you can do it once the vehicle is here. I actually had US customs photo copy my documentation as they had never seen it done before.
 

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Legal imports : ) Hmmm! Hot topic. Not one I'm willing to discuss here. Import laws vary state to state, but if it doesn't have a Fed Emissions sticker or an exemption it isn't 100% legal. Also the Feds have tightened imports recently so you might check.

I have/had a BJ60. Mine was/is an 83 with the 5spd. Yes they have entirely different input shafts and clutches. Input shafts are very expensive to replace to modify to a gas application. It sounds as though you already have the correct shaft. So changing to a 4spd from another 60 shouldn't be too tough.

A normally aspirated 3B is a tough push for a heavy 60, especially after driving a 350TBI'd 60. I was planning on putting my BJ engine/tranny/transfer in a 40. I couldn't ever find one until after I sold the motor. Turbos definitely wake that motor up.

Mine was 2800 US and the only salvageable body part was the hood. I ended up parting it out and I ended up getting about 1900 in parts off of it. So I guess I lost. But, I did keep the tranny and some other misc. parts for myself.

If I were in your shoes. I'd make a BJ40. Gas mileage, torque, and it would be a bit of a novelty.
 
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