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I have the impression that Diesel Cruisers and H engines are rare in the US of A. What is the story there? Is it something to do with the emission regulations? Or was it a sales/marketing thing?
 

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If you really want a Toyota diesel, Lugger marine out of Seattle imports a large chunk of the line up into the states for marine use. Although I believe they only import new stuff. I hope this helps!
 

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I would think it's a "marketing thing"--ie. Toyota's research showed that diesel Cruiser's wouldn't sell--plus they wanted to sell to the higher end luxury market (ala 60/62/80/100).

For the general public, diesels aren't that popular (the rabid Cruiser heads that drool over the diesels represent such a small market segment as to be invisible to Toyota).

And at one time they were something to be "feared" from a consumer standpoint because diesel was harder to find and you had problems (at least that was how the story went) with fuel gelling in the winter, etc.

I remember when I was in high school I wanted to get a used diesel K5 Blazer and my dad convinced me out of it with those type of arguments.

I have a diesel and finding fuel isn't too bad (there ARE areas that I have a hard time finding it in though). The winterized diesel fuel and a good set of glow plugs results in pretty easy winter starting.

Diesels are still generally seen mostly as "work trucks"--chances are you aren't going to buy a $60K (what it would go for in the U.S.) diesel Land Cruiser for your plumbing business or to haul your horse trailer, etc... you'd go with a cheaper Ford or Dodge. Toyota's target market in the U.S. just isn't into diesels.
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When the 80's were coming in to Australia 60% of them were diesels. We love 'em, and they sell like hot-cakes.
 

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Originally posted by 2car:
<STRONG>When the 80's were coming in to Australia 60% of them were diesels. We love 'em, and they sell like hot-cakes.</STRONG>
I believe it. I would love one.

Unfortunately the yuppie grocery getter market in the U.S. probably wouldn't appreciate them as much.

How much did they cost?

[ 08-17-2001: Message edited by: Cruiserhaven ]
 

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Originally posted by Mark 73' FJ40:
<STRONG>aaahhhh

Canada has them.

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Didn't Toyota stop importing non-industrial use Land Cruisers into Canada?
 

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Originally posted by LandCruisersKickAss:
<STRONG> <IMG SRC="smilies/massey.gif" border="0">
live in Oz!
diesels galore!
but you really should get a TURBO!!
that is all!
mine are noth diesels!</STRONG>
Very nice except for that weird gun control thing you guys got going on down under <IMG SRC="smilies/puke.gif" border="0">.
 

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Cruiserhaven is right, Canada got diesel Cruisers from 1978 through 1987, in the forms of BJ40's, BJ42's, BJ60's, BJ70's and HJ60's. In addition, a small number of diesel Land Cruisers (in the forms of BJ75's, PZJ75's, HJ75's and HZJ75's) are imported by third parties for use in mine and industrial applications, but there aren't intended for street use (though some have discreetly made it).
One thing you didn't mention above is that the price of gasoline plays a huge role in the lack of enthusiasm for diesels in the US; if we were paying the $4+ a gallon that other countries pay, you bet there'd be more diesels around.
My wife drives a 1999 VW Jetta TDI, nice little car. Comfortable, peppy (with the turbo), and you can't beat 50 MPG on the highway! Heck, her car brings our household to a respectable 32 MPG average, try shaking a stick at that! <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">
 
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