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What's your guys' thoughts about wheel width regarding your footprint in the snow? For example, you have a 42" tall by 14" wide tire; is it better to run a 9" wide wheel or a 12"?

My thought is the wider the wheel the better; makes the tires "wider" or "balloon" giving you a greater contact patch....

then that brings up another question: when is the wheel too wide? on a single outer beadlock wheel, once you go too wide you'll start losing inner beads. but lets say you're using the same tire above (42x14), would a 14" wide double bead lock wheel be too wide? would a 12" wide wheel be better on a 14" wide tire? or 13" even?
 

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I run my 42's on stock H1's and don't think the wheel width makes a huge difference when your down to a couple pounds. Tires that have nice broke in sidewalls (I think that is most important) will bulge at low low pressure regardless. That said, I wouldn't mount a 42x14 on a 6" wide wheel but within a few inches 9"-12" for a 14"+ tire has seemed to been a good match in my experience.
 

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Im a snow wheeler guy and all of us run 15x14 - 16x14 beadlock wheels and thats with 44 boggers and 46 claws gives us lots of foot print in the snow.
 

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I run my 42's on stock H1's and don't think the wheel width makes a huge difference when your down to a couple pounds. Tires that have nice broke in sidewalls (I think that is most important) will bulge at low low pressure regardless. That said, I wouldn't mount a 42x14 on a 6" wide wheel but within a few inches 9"-12" for a 14"+ tire has seemed to been a good match in my experience.
I really think that the wider the wheel, the wider the contact patch until your wheel is wider than your rubber, then youre just being an import wanna be :flipoff2::laughing:

Im a snow wheeler guy and all of us run 15x14 - 16x14 beadlock wheels and thats with 44 boggers and 46 claws gives us lots of foot print in the snow.
so do you think a 14" wide wheel is too wide for a 14" wide tire? (strictly snow wheeling)
 

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double beadlock would hold the tire nicely on the inside on a 14" wide rim do you have the stazworks already?? :jeep2:
I don't but will be ordering them when my new project is finished. Tires will be 42x14R15 iroks ... and the reason for this thread. Stazworks can make wheels in any width you want. Being a double bead lock, I am not worried about going too wide on the wheels if it will improve flotation in the snow
 

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I don't but will be ordering them when my new project is finished. Tires will be 42x14R15 iroks ... and the reason for this thread. Stazworks can make wheels in any width you want. Being a double bead lock, I am not worried about going too wide on the wheels if it will improve flotation in the snow
Expensive taste but nice wheels for sure, double beadlock is always nice on a 15 its a little overkill IMO but hey doesnt hurt if you can justify it!:smokin:

we usually run 15x14 allied rockathon's 32 bolt beadlocks work great :smokin::D
 

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Expensive taste but nice wheels for sure, double beadlock is always nice on a 15 its a little overkill IMO but hey doesnt hurt if you can justify it!:smokin:

we usually run 15x14 allied rockathon's 32 bolt beadlocks work great :smokin::D
i feel like they are worth it for snow wheelin, and they are only $100 more a wheel than the allied's in the same size. I think I will go with a 15x12 wheel for the 14" wide irok
 

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where are all,the Kelowna guys getting wide wheels.
Need some for my new to me 44s. 17x12,14,16.
Got a quote for stazworks...pretty nice but expensive.
 

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we buy online lol search the forums, or buy blank steel wheels and get DIY bead lock kits and weld them on.
 

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Somewhere along this build I've lost my
Mind. Picked up some 44 rockers and want to double beadlock em for winter

Need to find some 17x12 -17x14s. Seem to be unicorns.
Stazworks is 445-550 us each which may have to be the end result.
 

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Somewhere along this build I've lost my
Mind. Picked up some 44 rockers and want to double beadlock em for winter

Need to find some 17x12 -17x14s. Seem to be unicorns.
Stazworks is 445-550 us each which may have to be the end result.
yah sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and spend the cash, but I would really look online first and possibly build your own save the cost of exchange rate etc.. Todd at Aqualu might be able to cut you some nice beadlock rings etc :smokin:
 

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Wider is better within reason. I believe firmly it does make a difference. For a long time we ran a 15.5 wide tire on 12" wheels and it held fine even on sidehills if prudent with air pressure etc.

However, I knew one guy I ran with who did 15.5 wide tires on a 14" rim. Just looking at those things aired out made me nervous that they'd pop a bead.

I should note that these were all kinda "pre" bead lock or at least before they were readily available.
 

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I have been running 14" wide wheels on 19.5" wide tires with good results. Picked up another set of 54s on 10" wide wheels and was thinking about making a 16" wide set of wheels. Or should I try some 18" wide wheels? At some point it seems like the center of tread might start to cave in.
 

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I would also think at some point you'd be putting enough pressure on the sidewall to where they wouldn't want to flex correctly either. I wouldn't be afraid to try 16 though.
 

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I have been running 14" wide wheels on 19.5" wide tires with good results. Picked up another set of 54s on 10" wide wheels and was thinking about making a 16" wide set of wheels. Or should I try some 18" wide wheels? At some point it seems like the center of tread might start to cave in.
I had that issue with my pitbulls. I bought a set of NEW 35x14.5 pitbull rockers mounted on 15x8 wheels. I aired them down and the sidewalls folded nicely. thinking wider wheel = more flotation, I then mounted them on a set of 15x12 wheels. the results - the sidewalls no longer squatted and instead the tread caved in. it was very frustrating to say the least.

with that said, if youre planning on running a bias tire in the snow, I think at a minimum it has to be a 39.5 tall tire w/ 15" wheels or 42" tall w/ 17" wheels. anything less and the sidewalls are too stiff and wont flex.

I went back to 36x14.5R15 radial tire and they squat and work perfectly.

I think there is enough sidewall on those 54s that it doesn't matter how wide of wheel you go, the sidewalls are going to squat either way :laughing:
 

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Funny I was thinking about this during my drive back from the PNW and talking with Corey Young a little about it. (just realized he bumped the thread :homer: )

The last post makes sense to me, once the sidewalls are about vertical the tread is going to want to cave in, at least on a bias, a radial may not care since the sidewalls flex so well.

I definitely think you can go too wide, not only will the tread want to cave in, but I would think you will loose sidehill stability.

I feel like 3-4" less than tread width is probably good, depending on height. The 54s and 49s I've seen on 14s seemed perfect. But honestly, even the 49s and 47 pit bulls I've seen on H1's seemed to work OK. Even a 12" on a 14" tire might be a bit much. Especially since you are going to have a lot of sidewall. I would love to see someone compare different width wheels on the same tire.
 
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