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They can arrest you without reading your rights. They don't need to read your rights until they want to ask some questions. If they have what they need, no rights read.
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ummm, no?

because even if they're not asking questions whatever you say may be used against you, unless they don't tell you that.

the miranda shit is so they can use the evidence you're dumb enough to give them, they don't skip it.

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the only time you're not going to here it is if they DON'T take you into custody. then it's just a conversation and you were free to go at any time and under no obligation to speak to them.
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Miranda is for when they want to talk to you. If you decide to start spouting off at the mouth that's on you, not them (unprovoked utterance)
 

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From the New York Times. https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/12/05/us/ap-us-police-shooting-shoplifting-investigation.html

The unidentified deputy was found to have violated department policy governing arrests, Greenville County Sheriff's Office spokesman Lt. Ryan Flood said in an email. He did not elaborate on how policy was violated.

Flood was quoted byThe Greenville News as sayingthat the deputy's discipline included counseling and remedial training. He said she was briefly placed on administrative duty but had since been cleared for regular duty.

“This is an effort to ensure the deputy is ready following ... a critical incident,” Flood's statement said.

https://www.facebook.com/PendletonPlace/photos/a.101905358049/10155615401993050/?type=1&theater

Someone in the YouTube comments said this is her, I think on the right.
 

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This. Just because this particular woman fucked up doesn't mean others aren't capable. OP is a moron.
Ok, I am not going to say Rhonda Roussy should not be a cop, but let's have an honest conversation. Judging by this video, she is a short pudgy chick. Why do you put her in a position like that? If all people/criminals respected the badge I reckon we would not need cops in the first place. Big sloppy fat out of shape dudes and average chicks are a liability. You want to be a detective? Great, but unless you can pass a physically challenging test, once a year, you should not be a patrol cop or a correction officer.
 

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Right at the onset he balled up his fist pulled it back and threatened her. Good time for a tazer maybe, if she had one.

So he's a broke morning drunken thief who is willing to get physical with a LEO while yelling I'm a victim.

She wasn't perfect but who is. I bet the 'policy' book is near impossible to follow. Probably so many rules and regulations that they break them every time they talk with someone. She certainly could have waited quietly and patiently but she had a job to do and ... well read the above again.

I have no issue with her or what she did. I'd criticize the panic miss but until its you, who knows. I think her gun jammed and that's why no 3rd shot when she was pinned and it was inches from his neck.
 

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2 shots fired with less than 5 ft to the target, and she even has nearly muzzle contact on his head at one point.....Either those were ND's or she decided not to go for a 3rd try...
 

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2 shots fired with less than 5 ft to the target, and she even has nearly muzzle contact on his head at one point.....Either those were ND's or she decided not to go for a 3rd try...
Listen to it. It was jammed. you can hear her fix it after it was on his neck. I am guessing a limp wrist into the floor did it.
 

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Ok, I am not going to say Rhonda Roussy should not be a cop, but let's have an honest conversation. Judging by this video, she is a short pudgy chick. Why do you put her in a position like that? If all people/criminals respected the badge I reckon we would not need cops in the first place. Big sloppy fat out of shape dudes and average chicks are a liability. You want to be a detective? Great, but unless you can pass a physically challenging test, once a year, you should not be a patrol cop or a correction officer.
I think a female voice can sometimes de-escalate a situation.

You want full on John Wayne, testosterone fueled policing, go all male departments.

I agree from a physiological perspective, men are going to be stronger, but with good department practices and policies, you shouldn't need to be in a one on one fight with a scumbag. You talk as much as you can, don't physically engage and wait.

I used to know a cop and he would always refuse to chase anyone. He would say, if I can run him down with my car, fine, but I'm not running. He'll be back on the same corner tomorrow, and I'll grab him then. He was a lazy POS, but he kinda had a point.
 

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the only time you're not going to here it is if they DON'T take you into custody. then it's just a conversation and you were free to go at any time and under no obligation to speak to them.
You are NEVER under obligation to speak to them. What do you think "you have the right to remain silent" means? :laughing:
 
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