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Planning on visiting family out in Queen Creek, AZ and I've been wanting to run Woodpecker in the buggy. Doing a little reading, it seems in the last few years it had been plowed, to weathering nicely again, to parts being closed because of Indian ruins.

What's the scoop? Is it worth the time to run it? Is it even open? And last but not least, are there any other good trails in the area that are good/difficult/challenging?

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Lower WP is closed.
Upper is open. Obstacles are about the same as they have been.
Depends on the rig and skill. Kind of boring imo.
 

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Lower WP is closed. I ran Upper WP last fall...it's mostly graded to get into a mine now. There are a few obstacles, but it's not that great anymore.

If you want trails of this caliber, Elvis is better.

Or, if you want Harder Axle Alley and Highway to Hell and near by.
 

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Thanks. Any maps or directions to those other trails? I kind of know the general area but have no idea how to find the trails.
 

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Thanks. Any maps or directions to those other trails? I kind of know the general area but have no idea how to find the trails.
The only one I can tell you how to get to is Highway to Hell...at the end of Upper WP keep going straight instead of making a right up out of the canyon.

Elvis and Axle Alley, not sure...I am always with locals to the area.
 

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Sorry for all the questions, but how would I know what is upper and lower WP?
 

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I assume you are not going alone. Maybe post up in the SW section and see if anyone local can take you on your dates.
 

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Lower is a section that is no more than a few hundred yards long...it is an off-shoot of the main road and is clearly marked no access by Forest Service markers.

Upper is a trail.
 

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Curious what draws a person to want to run the easiest trail in the easiest area in AZ in his buggy? Have you not heard about what AZ has to offer trail wise? Has woodpecker been a figment of imagination for years and you just want to see it? Does your rig suck?
 

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Curious what draws a person to want to run the easiest trail in the easiest area in AZ in his buggy? Have you not heard about what AZ has to offer trail wise? Has woodpecker been a figment of imagination for years and you just want to see it? Does your rig suck?
I don't understand the draw. I know a few people that are always running it and H2H. I can make better use of my time elsewhere.

It would be like us going to JV and only running bolder dash.
 

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What kind of buggy you got? Start with that and when you are coming and you might get a few takers on some wheeling.
 

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So no more firehole? Is Ajax still open? that was always a fun trail.
 

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So no more firehole? Is Ajax still open? that was always a fun trail.
Fire hole is still there but the bypass to the right you could drive the miners dump truck up :flipoff2:

Ajax is still open.

Pictures from the inspection walk through with BLM.
 

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For me, the draw is that my brother lives in San Tan Valley, and it's super close. I realize it not the most challenging trail in AZ, but my Dad is coming along in his Flatty on 33's, and my brother has been wanting us to come out and do these trails for years. Got my buggy finished around Christmas, and have spent 3 or 4 weekends at the Hammers since.



 

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Does your brother know how to get you around the ranch at the end of cotton wood road? The new ranch owner locked the gate last month and all traffic has to go around, then you would need to back track to cottonwood road to find Upper woodpecker.

It would be a safe choice for your dad on 33s.
 

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Does your brother know how to get you around the ranch at the end of cotton wood road? The new ranch owner locked the gate last month and all traffic has to go around, then you would need to back track to cottonwood road to find Upper woodpecker.

It would be a safe choice for your dad on 33s.
I think he knows his way around the area pretty well, he's always out scouting for deer and javelina, but I'll have him scout out getting to the trail before we come out.
 

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Are you talking about the ranch at Cottonwood and Raymert? Thanks for the heads up, BTW.
 

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Going to be out there the weekend of May 17th. Hope the heat is not too brutal. May go for a night run instead.
 
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