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ok I ordered a set of 31in long shocks to go with a 3in lift.... go ahead and flame me... but i`m doin goofy leaf in the rear and gotta come up with some kinda idea for shock mounts in the front... or will my factory mounts be plenty... is this somthing i`ll just have to look at whenever i get the shocks or somthing.... and annother thing.... Genuine suspension... are their springs stiff cause i haven`t heard a damn thing about them.... i just had 200 dollars laying around and ordered springs,brake lines,and shocks for 200 bucks..... lemme know if i`ma have problems
 

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Well, if you're running genuine suspension and it's anything like the CJ line, you'll only need a 1" stroke shock.

Weld the axles to the frame. The ride will be softer that way.
 

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sounds like a plan man..... thanks for the info

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this is what the suspension is goin under

 

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i didnt know genuine suspension was stiff ???
3" lift front springs and AAL's in the rear... 35" tires.


 

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i didnt know genuine suspension was stiff ???
3" lift front springs and AAL's in the rear... 35" tires.
Yeah look's like they will flex real good:rolleyes: I think from the pictures you might be better off with a different spring. Maybe find some rears to use up front and use a couple of these to help back them up for lift. You might get a little more flex that way. Thats just something I though of you could try.
 

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ok I ordered a set of 31in long shocks to go with a 3in lift....

Next time maybe you will do it RIGHT and MEASURE for the shock you NEED instead of just going out and getting the longest ones you can find to be "cool" :shaking:
 

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well its like this..... i`ve been searching on shock mounts and i figured i`d just fab up some crazy idea... i thought about 2x2 square steel welded to the fram with 3 braces on it one on each side and one behind it then a brace from top to top.. i`m really tryin to keep my Center of gravity down 3 inches is all i really wanna go but i`ma try to get as much droop as possible usin buggy leafs.... i hope i`ll come up with somthing...
 

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well its like this..... i`ve been searching on shock mounts and i figured i`d just fab up some crazy idea... i thought about 2x2 square steel welded to the fram with 3 braces on it one on each side and one behind it then a brace from top to top.. i`m really tryin to keep my Center of gravity down 3 inches is all i really wanna go but i`ma try to get as much droop as possible usin buggy leafs.... i hope i`ll come up with somthing...

To get the proper shock you need to get the springs in there,make your shock mounts and twist everything up as far as it will go. Then measure your compressed length and extended lenght. Then park the truck on level ground and measure the length of the shock at rest. Then get some catalogs and find a shock that will fit your truck. Your truck and another truck with the same amount of lift might use 2 different shocks. Because different springs,hangers,shackles and everything else can give you more or less travel that the other guy. You can't just go buy the longest shock and make it work:rolleyes: A shock that is way to long won't work as good as the shock that fit's your suspention travel. A freind of mine built a willy's Heep and the way he built it the thing uses factory lenght Toyota rear shocks all the way around. So he went and bought 4 rancho shock's for the back of a Toyota truck. No it's not a flex monster but it does work pretty good for just riding around the woods. There's alot more to shocks than some people think. And no stiffer shocks won't give you any more lift.:flipoff2:

Here's a page from Rancho's site to give you an idea.Rancho shock specs
 

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i'm not sure if anyone else mentioned it or if it is what you need, but there is a write up on installing ford shock towers on the front of your yota on the wild yoats website.
 

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You can't just go buy the longest shock and make it work:rolleyes:
He he....AFAIK I was the first to put 9012s on a Toy...and that's exactly what I did :D :D :D

But.....you are right....you gotta do the measurements and setup the mounts accordingly.

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A shock that is way to long won't work as good as the shock that fit's your suspention travel.
Yeah that makes sense..............



Who cares if the shocks are too long if he is building new mounts to accomidate longer shocks??? All thats going to happen is he will not use all the travel, which will not hurt performance in any way. Its better to have to much shock travel then not enough.
 

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why not just buy the longest travel shock you can find(procomp33200, rancho 5012, 9012, whatever) and set the mounts up so they dont bottom out before properly mounted bumpstops on compression and call it a day? then you dont have to go shock shoppin again when you upgrade your suspension to something with more flex....
just an idea:)

if you mount your rears like this /\, which isnt exactly ideal, you can get away with stock shocks out back even with a long travel spring.
 

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Is that Flat Rock in the pic you posted? If so how long ago was the pic taken?
 

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SOOORRRRYYYY i didnt know that if i didnt have 4 foot of flex its not flexy ! get real man. for a cheapie lift thats pretty damn good. Maybe i dont have the money like all you do to do spring swaps and all that bullshit. just a poor 17yr old trying to have fun with what he's got.
 

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yeah thats flat rock in that picture ..... i`m proud to say i`ve went up the right side of it.... scared the shit outta me but that was like 2 months ago we go out there everyonce in awhile when we get a good amount of people to go... i`ve also got some trails .5 miles from my house with alota good flexy spots... By the way i found out i`m ditching the add a leaf on my lift and doing the chevy spring swap in the rear with 3/4 eliptical... for now but i want to coil it out in the rear asap... I went to a local ford dealership today and checked on prices for ford shock mounts and they want friggin 28 bucks a mount... i was like hell no who knows the cheapest place for shock mounts ford style... I guess i`ll do it just as i have been doin it the past couple of days and thats riding shockless in the front :flipoff2: :flipoff2: i`ll come up with somthing i guesss i`ll try a search on shock mounts and see what i come up with if anyone would help me find places that sell stuff cheap i`m down with that thanks
 

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Here's the part # for the ones I bought...
O'mearaPhord-Northglenn Colo

#E5TZ*18183*A $11.76 that's the one with 2) mounting holes

#E4TZ*18183*A $38.33 Exact Same shape w/ 4 holes

So they may have priced you a the differen't #
Ones for a F150 and a F250 I think... I just had the Hot parts chick pull all the ones she had and compared them all....

LOL, The price probably went up from all of us buying them.... They're probably trying to figure out why people are replacing them so often.....
 

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SOOORRRRYYYY i didnt know that if i didnt have 4 foot of flex its not flexy ! get real man. for a cheapie lift thats pretty damn good. Maybe i dont have the money like all you do to do spring swaps and all that bullshit. just a poor 17yr old trying to have fun with what he's got.
Ok your springs flex a little. But if you think they're something special you need to get over yourself. However your money to do a spring swap comment makes me question your grasp of reality. Why do you think we swap junkyard springs into our trucks? Because we have tons of cash?:rolleyes: If I had money I'd call up Deaver or National and have a pack made, or better yet run coilovers. I run Wagoneer springs up front cause they were free and work a helluva lot better then your bolt on springs. I run Chevy springs out back because they were free and work a lot better then any bolt on springs I've found. Yeah I remember being 17 and trying to wheel, it was great, just wait until you're in college and trying to wheel. You don't know broke yet tough guy. If you want to learn how to wheel cheap there's tons of great info out there. I've got less then 3 grand into my pile and almost everythings been replaced from the original truck I started with. Zero bolt on parts and the satisfaction of building it yourself your way.

Travis
 
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