ya the isuzu is a good choice of an engine for a jeep i,m putting a 4bd in my wrangler ... this is a bigger engine i know .. but actually the guys on 4bt swaps have been talking about the 4jg .. i don't know if your on there but that would be a good place to stsrt......

 

ya the isuzu is a good choice of an engine for a jeep i,m putting a 4bd in my wrangler ... this is a bigger engine i know .. but actually the guys on 4bd have been talking about the 4jg .. i don't know if your on there but that would be a good place to stsrt......

On where?

 

Some good stuff toward the end of this thread...

Diesel anyone ? - The CJ2A Page Forums - Page 1

Some neat Kubota engine swap stuff...

 

Thanks for the link Mieser. Those Kubota V2003 MT /V2203 DI/ V2403 engines look pretty neat.

Another person on the steelsoldiers forum suggested looking into the Cummins A2300T.

TDI might be an option? Looks like OTT makes an adapter that would allow me to use the SM465 with that engine using a Toyota bellhousing.

 

on 4 bt swaps the isuzu section
isuzu 4jb1-t conversion - and a personal intro

 

Oh yeah, thanks. Have been spending a lot of time reading-up on different engine swaps on that forum.

 

no problem ......
your duece and a half rv is one bad rig .awesome work
looking forward to see how your jeep project turns out..........

 

Thanks.

Added a list of all the engines to the first post. Please let me know if I've left out anything else worth looking at.

 

I'm using the 4m40 mitsubishi's 2.8L intercooled turbo diesel for my jeep.

 

What did you pull that out of? Anything we'd be able to find down here?

This post on the 4BTswaps forum, and the little bit of research that I've done, has got me thinking something like one of these Kubota's might be the ticket.

The Kubota V2203 is quickly becoming abundant due to the increased EPA regs that California has in place. Anyone that hauls in that state has to comply, so the reefer trailers have to be new or retrofitted with the newer complyant motors. Most of them are 2003 and newer with low hrs, so they are good to go. Find them at big truck/trailer repair shops for 700-1000 or liquidator sites are getting 1200+. Do some looking while you are in Cali.

 

Five cylinder Mercedes turbo diesel. Some guy in the Cherokee section did it.

 

The five cylinder OM617 is too long and the four cylinder OM616 is kinda meh.

 

eventually ill be throwing a 98 TDI into my 2000 cherokee.

using a toyota 4 speed and dual case top shifting t cases.

they are super small engines. can be tuned (if left electric) and are already capable of pushing a jetta very well in stock form.

the weight difference between the jetta and a cherokee is 100 pounds or something like that.

food for thought

 

If I ever do the diesel swap I would do a tdi motor. You can find parts at almost any parts store cause vw used it in almost ever car they have. They also can be made to make a good amount of power.

 

The Isuzu C240 engines I found all ended up selling for way too much, but think I might have scored a Kubota V2203-DI. Friend of a friend runs a refrigeration business and has a bunch of them, so I should have one within the next 2-3 weeks. Now I have to figure out how to adapt my SM465 to the back of it. From what I've read, Phoenix Casting might make an adapter to go from the engine (SAE #4) to a Chevy bellhousing. Have to call them to see how much length that might add, and then figure out what I'll have to do with the flywheel and throwout bearing and starter and all that other stuff. Capable of designing/fabricating all this stuff, but would rather purchase these parts if anybody else has already figured it out.

 

I live in Italy, here CJ with the ISUZU C240 were fairly common in the '80s, AMC made a bellhousing to match the T176 using ISUZU clutch so it bolt straight on, the only thing i dislike is the lack of HP, it's a kinda neverending engine but it doesn't give a lot "emotions" when pushing the gas pedal...
A buddy of mine made a swap using the ISUZU 2.8 Turbo engine came out from a Trooper, it has decent power and great fuel mileage, also fit the CJ hood and bellhousing pretty easily, definately a good candidate for the swap.

Tell me if you nee more info

 

I live in Italy, here CJ with the ISUZU C240 were fairly common in the '80s, AMC made a bellhousing to match the T176 using ISUZU clutch so it bolt straight on, the only thing i dislike is the lack of HP, it's a kinda neverending engine but it doesn't give a lot "emotions" when pushing the gas pedal...
A buddy of mine made a swap using the ISUZU 2.8 Turbo engine came out from a Trooper, it has decent power and great fuel mileage, also fit the CJ hood and bellhousing pretty easily, definately a good candidate for the swap.

The C240's were for sale at auction and they got a ton of money for them. Way more than I wanted to spend on one of those engines. Was really only thinking about using one because they popped-up, and still might if I find a good deal on another one.

Be aware of the large gaps in the 465s ratios, you need to have a wider rpm band in order to pull those gaps, even with a 225 they were annoying. What about the old olds 350 diesels? I know that they were crappy in cars, but based on an olds 350 gas they should fit, adapt easily to thhe 465, and spin plenty of rpms. I remember riding in one going 85mph with an alarm buzzer going off to tell you to slow down to below 55 and save fuel like president Carter says. Although a buickv6 hei motorcraft 2bbl 5.38s warn od and 35"s gets great mpg in my bros m170 (military cj6) my cj5, 5.38s 465, 33"s and no od, not so much. Don't those multifuels use a little gasoline in some of their fuel recipes?

Thanks, I've thought about that. Have a Warn OD and was if I end up with a low-revving diesel, was thinking that I'd replace the shifter with an electric solenoid and put a button on the transmission shifter so I could split gears. But a friend just gave me an old Muncie M20 with a vertical-gate Hurst shifter and an AA Dana 18 transmission adapter. So might end up using that instead, just depending on the engine.

I'd do a gray-market Isuzu engine/trans/t-case. One of the West Coast importers of Japanese engines should be able to hook you up. I think there are some in Texas also.

4JG1T drivetrain.

Thanks, that might be worth looking into. Remember looking up the specs for the C240 and wishing it was a 4JG1T.

 

Be aware of the large gaps in the 465s ratios, you need to have a wider rpm band in order to pull those gaps, even with a 225 they were annoying. What about the old olds 350 diesels? I know that they were crappy in cars, but based on an olds 350 gas they should fit, adapt easily to thhe 465, and spin plenty of rpms. I remember riding in one going 85mph with an alarm buzzer going off to tell you to slow down to below 55 and save fuel like president Carter says. Although a buickv6 hei motorcraft 2bbl 5.38s warn od and 35"s gets great mpg in my bros m170 (military cj6) my cj5, 5.38s 465, 33"s and no od, not so much. Don't those multifuels use a little gasoline in some of their fuel recipes?

 

I'd do a gray-market Isuzu engine/trans/t-case. One of the West Coast importers of Japanese engines should be able to hook you up. I think there are some in Texas also.

4JG1T drivetrain.

 

Went ahead and picked up a little Kubota 2203 yesterday. It's a non-turbo DI engine with low-hours. Price was right and I'm too curious. Might decide that it's too itty-bitty to push the Jeep, but have to try it.

 

7.3 idi mated to a np435/205 or 6.2/sm465/205


Sure the 7.3 is like a big block but it would be cool. the 6.2 would be a little behind.

But honestly the little vw tdi are impressive with some tuning.

 

In an early CJ5? Did you even read what this project is all about?

 

Yeh I wasnt serious about the 7.3 or the 6.2.

I was being serious about the v-dub motor.

 

Yeah TDI would have been my first/second choice (Cummins 3.3 would have been pretty rad too), but they're just too expensive.

 

My other car is a 2004 VW Jetta TDI with a stage II tune. Makes impressive numbers and will burn rubber in first and second. Check out TDIFORUM.COM
I believe there are a couple of threads on TDI/Jeep swaps.

 

Any idea where we might be able to find one at a reasonable price though? I could buy an LS1 for less than a TDI...

 

did the 3-53 detriot diesel .. very easy to install .. no cutting required.. 100% mechanical.. will run on just about anything you put in it.. used my stock 6cyl rad and it get 34 mpg.. mine came out of a wonder bread truck had a T-19 behind it already.....still running it to this day

 

34mpg? Wow, that's impressive. More details please.

 

you can check out the pics of some of the install ... click my name and look for post by me....

 

Cool project.