so i was wondering if its really worth the hassle to turbo a 22re? i have one in my buggy that im building and i have a guy that wants to trade me a turbo manifold and turbo for a samurai body i have. was wondering how hard is it? how much does it usually cost and overall would it be worth spending the time and money to turbo it?. and to get it out of the way i did already search :flipoff2:
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so i was wondering if its really worth the hassle to turbo a 22re? i have one in my buggy that im building and i have a guy that wants to trade me a turbo manifold and turbo for a samurai body i have. was wondering how hard is it? how much does it usually cost and overall would it be worth spending the time and money to turbo it?. and to get it out of the way i did already search :flipoff2:
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Disclaimer: I looked into it a little, but I've never been around a turbo truck.
From what I gather, it's not really worth it using the stock turbo. Using a Supra turbo or a T3/T4 yields better results. I believe you also need the Turbo ECU.
From what I gather, it's not really worth it using the stock turbo. Using a Supra turbo or a T3/T4 yields better results. I believe you also need the Turbo ECU.
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im not just talking like performance gains and such but from what i was reading on the turbo toyota site its quite a bit of work to get one tuned if trying to use a stock toyota EFI, im sure after market turbos would definitely help. question is more what is the usual cost and is it really worth doing if that makes sense
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huge waste of time using the yota ecu. go with a megasquirt, its cheaper, and much easier to manipulate for your purposes.
NO, its not worth it
YES, it is cool.
i would say a safe estimate of turbo, all supporting mods, tune, blah blah blah, would be 3-4 grand. if you want more power, do a 3.4 or 4.3 or whatever swap, it'll be cheaper, more reliable, less hassle, make more power, etc.
NO, its not worth it
YES, it is cool.
i would say a safe estimate of turbo, all supporting mods, tune, blah blah blah, would be 3-4 grand. if you want more power, do a 3.4 or 4.3 or whatever swap, it'll be cheaper, more reliable, less hassle, make more power, etc.
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Are you opposed to using propane?
Can be done MUCH cheaper. I would imagine under 800 once you have a propane kit (which can be pieced together, or bought ready to bolt on)
I've read of 40% power gains on pane running about 10lbs of boost.
With that said, if i didnt have a good deal coming on a pane motor i'd do a 4.3, 700r4 w/ full manual valve body and a d300 w/ 4:1. torque is what you want for your trail riding, and the 22re lacks said torque
Can be done MUCH cheaper. I would imagine under 800 once you have a propane kit (which can be pieced together, or bought ready to bolt on)
I've read of 40% power gains on pane running about 10lbs of boost.
With that said, if i didnt have a good deal coming on a pane motor i'd do a 4.3, 700r4 w/ full manual valve body and a d300 w/ 4:1. torque is what you want for your trail riding, and the 22re lacks said torque
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honestly i was figuring the cool factor hahaha, im just building a budget toyota buggy and thought if i could throw a turbo on it for cheap it would make it alittle more fun. the thing i dont like about LP is how it is a bit more expensive fuel, if you run out on the trail your fawked, the smell, room the tanks take up, but i do really like it because of the simplicity of the whole thing over EFI.
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Check out www.22rte-trucks.com. I think thats it theres a shit ton of info overthere on this subject.
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ya i was looking on there and thats where i found out it would be a PITA
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Cheap and Turbo do not go together in any shape for form. You will have the same amount of money wrapped up in a turbo project as you would with a mulitport FI V8 of your choice but with no real reliability and no huge gain. Ive got 320hp out of a stock 05' 5.3l that i picked up up for a grand complete. With the pedal welded to the firewall it still gets about 11mpg on the trail. It also doesn't weigh much more than the 22re and is a million times more reliable. A buddy of mine has been working on his turbo over supercharged 22re for about 4 years now and an ungodly amount of money and its still doesn't even have axles. Granted it will be very cool when its done and make cool noises. To make a long story short... forced induction is NOT cost effective unless you have everything sitting there (ie a whole turbo'd truck).
On the otherhand my 5.3 swap still cost me about $3300. But when I want to go wheeling it starts EVERY time no hiccups no bullshit. And when I feel the need to go faster I can easily upgrade with a tune and a cam or some head work and STILL have the reliability at 400hp or even 500hp.
On the otherhand my 5.3 swap still cost me about $3300. But when I want to go wheeling it starts EVERY time no hiccups no bullshit. And when I feel the need to go faster I can easily upgrade with a tune and a cam or some head work and STILL have the reliability at 400hp or even 500hp.
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I have a 22re turbo and it screams and was cheap. When I rebuilt the stock motor I put in turbo pistons and a steel head gasket. Then added a mitsubishi eclipse turbo for a $150.00 from my son. Ran the fuel management from vacumm on the return line, and the waste gate from vacumm, and the blow off valve from vacumm. It runs good and adds about 75 hp from the feel of pants. Never bogs and has great torque in an instant. The only problem was making my own exhaust manifold from a header plate and 90 degree tubing from LC engineering. I had to flip it so the exhaust comes out the hood, talk about sweet. You must lower the compresion for it to work long time, mine has been running about 2 years and yes, now I want more as we all do. Have fun!!!!
I have a 22re turbo and it screams and was cheap. When I rebuilt the stock motor I put in turbo pistons and a steel head gasket. Then added a mitsubishi eclipse turbo for a $150.00 from my son. Ran the fuel management from vacumm on the return line, and the waste gate from vacumm, and the blow off valve from vacumm. It runs good and adds about 75 hp from the feel of pants. Never bogs and has great torque in an instant. The only problem was making my own exhaust manifold from a header plate and 90 degree tubing from LC engineering. I had to flip it so the exhaust comes out the hood, talk about sweet. You must lower the compresion for it to work long time, mine has been running about 2 years and yes, now I want more as we all do. Have fun!!!!
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we are at a higher elevation so the compression isnt AS big of an issue, but the turbo pistons are made to withhold the heat and such. if i could do it for under 500 bucks i would say it MIGHT be worth dicking with but i dont see that happening so thats why i thought i would ask.
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so just to run another thought past you guys, what if i was to do propane im assuming to add a turbo would be just take outlet of boost from turbo enter it into the intake of the propane mixer? of is there more to it? thanks!
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search turbo propane. no one answer will give you as much info that your looking for. read mr.stubs build and theres a few threads on turbo propane. you can get 200 hp easy out of turbo propane. with no electrical crap. turbo blows into the mixer so the mixer automaticly matches the volume comming in to make the right mixture into the cylinders. so easy its stupid. wish it was more econimical. i was gonna do it, but have decided on a 7m-ge instead
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ya i have been searching for quite a while, the big thing i like about LP is how simple it is, and i would assume if your engine is high compression and turboed it should be pretty econimical. ill keep searching, thanks for your input:smokin:
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economical as in filling stations. its my DD, so that would have been the problem. propane works best on wheeling trucks and when the bed is built to accommodate the cylinders
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oh i hear ya
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I was thinking about a turbo 22re and have friends of friends that run them. My buddy talked me out of it when he said every time his bubby would go through deep water it would crack the turbo, just somthing to think about.
I went with the 4.3 with a th350 and I love it.
I went with the 4.3 with a th350 and I love it.
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