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Howdy pirate folk.

I recently purchased an 03 ZR2. On the zr2 boards there seemed to be a lot of happy people with the BDS 5" sus. lift. (bds-suspension.com). I had ORU (offroadunlimited.com) scheduled to do the installation. About half way through the front end they called me and said that due to the standards of the shop, they couldn't in good conscience install the kit as in their opinon, it was not a top-notch kit. They were also wary about the only other available zr2 kit, 6" from Trailmaster because they said that Trailmaster had bought BDS (I haven't verified that myself) and since they hadn't made any improvements on the BDS kit, they doubted the Trailmaster 6" was of any better design. Then they told me they could do a SFA conversion and were going to put together a few numbers. My main question in the meantime; Are any of you familiar with ORU's work? I had some of the zr2 boards reccommend coming over here for opinons because ORU does alot of high-end modifications and some of you guys might have some experience with their rigs or at least how they engineer their setups. My main concern is that their approach is going to have (insert all the jargon here about degree's angles n'stuff) designed properly. This is my only truck, it's new, it's my daily driver, and I plan to take it out on trips and put it through the paces on cross country endeavors here in the expansive southwest region. I'm not going to anything like compete with it, nor specifically take it out rock crawling or finding the hardest trail possible, rubicon, etc. I really just want to get it off the ground a bit and not be concerned about grounding out anywhere. SFA sounds great, I know the advantages/disadvantages on/off road and I had a built up fj40 a while back. but on the zr2 it also voids some warranty and if it isn't done right and the things in the shop every weekend, I'm going to feel really burned with no way to get back to what it was if it doesn't work out. I know ORU has great looking stuff, and some of the pics on ther site and articles they get certainly attest to the durability and operational capability, but like I said, I don't want to be 60miles out somewhere by myself and have something go wrong because it was overlooked. Simutaneously, I don't want to have something fly off the underside at 70mph (exaggeration of course) cruising down the highway at the beginning of a 4 day excursion because of (insert more mathmatical jargon here).

Sooooo, if any one has any opinons of IFA/SFA, BDS/ORU, I would really appreciate it. I'm on a fact finding mission and I thank anyone who shares their .02¢ in advance. Please, keep it to experience if you can. Conjecture will only cloud my already swirling head.

Much oblige,

Shawn
 
The BDS kit is not a bad kit. I know people who have it and wheel very hard and it holds up fine. BDS also has a warranty on every part, you break it they replace it.

Also the other 6" kit is NOT Trailmaster. It is Superlift. Trailmaster has a 5" lift for regular s-10s.
I don't think i would SAS that 2003, not yet anyway. You should put the BDS on and just run some 33s since its your daily driver.
 
First off, trailmaster dosent have a kit. In the old days people retrofited the normal S-10 5" lift on to ZR2's. Now a days there are two IFS lift options for that hieght, the Superlift 6" and the BDS 5". If I were to do one of these it would be the Superlift.

Im my opinion theres no way in hell im spending that kind of money on a IFS lift. I will eventually do a solid axle to mine. I want to do it right the first time and weak IFS will not cut it. But this is not till mine is downgraded from daily driver status and I pay off all I have into my jeep.

Although the fact that I would not do the IFS lift dosent mean it isnt right for you. And I have never heard of any problems with any of these kits. But I do know they can be somewhat of a pain to install.
 
IFS = I'm Fucking Stuck

why buy a brand new $40,000+ rig just to void the warrenty?

ORU is overpriced, but if your rolling in cash, i know a few projects you can waste money that have a better ROI.
 
plain and simple the BDS is a very good kit and has some nice updates to it now. that shop is full of shit.

I've had the BDS on mine for about 2 years now and it holds up great. I wheel the shit outta mine too.

there's nothing wrong with wheelin IFS, don't let them razz ya. yes, I'm doing a SAS on mine when I get the cash ( I have the axles), but I've also wheeled mine on some tough terrian in Moab and frequent the badlands in Indy quite often (still with IFS).

I would agree that the SAS is not for you being that you have a '03 model. if you're not concerned about warranty, then maybe you could go that route.

Im doing the SAS simply because I want the stronger front and the trails I enjoy running now demand a little more capability (like more articulation and front locker).

if you have any more questions about the BDS and the install, check out zr2.com and you'll find everything you need.

good luck
 
IMO, you should not have your truck done there. Sounds to me like they want to get more money out of you by suggesting to do an SFA. Plus, they don't even know that the Trailmaster 6" isn't available for your truck. Since you're not going to be doing hardcore wheeling, it's a daily driver, and not wanting to void your warranty I'd suggest going with the BDS 5" or Superlift 6". Both are good kits.

Like 1TFROT said, if you would like more info or have more questions sign up over on zr2.com. Many people already have the BDS or SL that have many miles on them and have alot of experience with each.
 
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Thanks ya'll, this is helpful. In truth, I screwed up and said Trailmaster had the other kit, They of course did know that it was Superflift but when I wrote the post I mixed it up. If anyone else has anything to add, I'll still be freqeuenting the boards.

Shawn
 
scberry said:
Thanks ya'll, this is helpful. In truth, I screwed up and said Trailmaster had the other kit, They of course did know that it was Superflift but when I wrote the post I mixed it up. If anyone else has anything to add, I'll still be freqeuenting the boards.

Shawn
Keep your 03 nice and build something you wont feel guilty about thrashing! :evil:
 
Pdaddy said:


Keep your 03 nice and build something you wont feel guilty about thrashing! :evil:

Yup. Go pick up a beater S-10 somewhere, hack the chit out of it, and have fun.

Do the IFS lift until the warrenty is up, then cut out the IFS and do the SFA. You can also make a couple bucks on a used lift when you do the swap.
 
there's a member on here with an SFA blazer with 36's, i've seen in person and it is impressive. ask oxblood how he did his, it's a very good job.
 
If you can return the lift you'd be money ahead to do the solid axle now. If I were to pay someone else to do this swap, ORU would be a good shop because GM SAS's are their specialty. I recently did a dana 44 front/leaf springs for a customer who is running 32" BFG AT's, 4.10's, and Auburn limited slips. This truck is an X Cab S-10 that is his daily driver and he hauls his boat and kids on the weekends. He'll use it a couple of times on some light trails while fishing, but that's about it. He just wanted the realiability and strength of the SFA conversion, and didn't want to replace steering components all the time. BTW, he got about 5" of lift with stock wrangler springs over in the front. Sits with a very slight rake with springover in the rear. Very reliable and smooth on road, very good modification if done correctly.
 
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Thanks again everyone. Right now I think I'm going to just do the BDS with another shop. I would love to SAS it but I don't have money to burn and the warranty is a good thing while it lasts. A couple years down the road will be the time I think. I was mostly curious as to why ORU gave BDS the thumbs down when so many people are riding it since it was my first choice at this point.

Cheers,

Shawn
 
Mine is a daily driver and it handles better than it ever did with the BDS kit on, even at 80mph:flipoff2:
 
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