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HankScorpi0:25883929 said:
Would an Atlas or Rakeway transfer case work on a full time 4x4 like a Range Rover Classic? Can they run at highway speeds in 4 high without transfer case bind up
The transfer case is what determines whether or not it FT 4WD. Atlas has cable shifter so guess what you can shift it. lol
Sorry but that made no sense
 
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Bush65:25892105 said:
Would an Atlas or Rakeway transfer case work on a full time 4x4 like a Range Rover Classic? Can they run at highway speeds in 4 high without transfer case bind up
Yes to the first part.
No to the second.
Thankyou, the first answer that is helpfull!
So basically you have to run in 2WD at highway speeds, which doesnt work well in a Range Rover Classic due to torque steer.
 
Would an Atlas or Rakeway transfer case work on a full time 4x4 like a Range Rover Classic? Can they run at highway speeds in 4 high without transfer case bind up
The transfer case is what determines whether or not it FT 4WD. Atlas has cable shifter so guess what you can shift it. lol
Sorry but that made no sense
Then you don't understand how a full time 4wd drivetrain works. Go do some reading... once you do that, then you'll understand why your question is silly.
 
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Scrambler Jimmy:25899681 said:
Would an Atlas or Rakeway transfer case work on a full time 4x4 like a Range Rover Classic? Can they run at highway speeds in 4 high without transfer case bind up
The transfer case is what determines whether or not it FT 4WD. Atlas has cable shifter so guess what you can shift it. lol
Sorry but that made no sense
Then you don't understand how a full time 4wd drivetrain works. Go do some reading... once you do that, then you'll understand why your question is silly.
How bout you go do some reading on a Range Rover Classic, i know every bit of them and owned 4, it's a full time 4x4 by design and has no freewheeling hubs, so it must run a transfer case with a centre diff, hence my question about the Atlas/rakeway which I would like to learn more about, p.s Bush65 still has the only usefull answer so far. And if you wana talk crap do it in another thread.
 
How bout you go do some reading on a Range Rover Classic, i know every bit of them and owned 4, it's a full time 4x4 by design and has no freewheeling hubs, so it must run a transfer case with a centre diff, hence my question about the Atlas/rakeway which I would like to learn more about, p.s Bush65 still has the only usefull answer so far. And if you wana talk crap do it in another thread.
You are an idiot.
 
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Toy-Roverlander:25900289 said:
Then learn how to ask questions properly so people actually understand what it is you want to know:shaking:
Bush65 got it straight away and gave me the answer i was after, are you seriously that bored that you have time to get on the net to tell people they ask questions wrong, imo instead of being helpful you jumped to conclusions that I have no idea what a full time 4wd is. But I'll try to ask a question a little simpler next time ;)
 
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Buckon37s:25901433 said:
How bout you go do some reading on a Range Rover Classic, i know every bit of them and owned 4, it's a full time 4x4 by design and has no freewheeling hubs, so it must run a transfer case with a centre diff, hence my question about the Atlas/rakeway which I would like to learn more about, p.s Bush65 still has the only usefull answer so far. And if you wana talk crap do it in another thread.
You are an idiot.
Thanks for your help.
P.S hmm an idiot for asking a question about 2 transfer cases I would like to know more about on a forum that no doubt most of the users would be.
 
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Bush65:25892105 said:
Would an Atlas or Rakeway transfer case work on a full time 4x4 like a Range Rover Classic? Can they run at highway speeds in 4 high without transfer case bind up
Yes to the first part.
No to the second.
So both Rakeway and Atlas work by simply disconecting the front or rear? Both dont have a CDL?
Does anybody run an atlas or a Rakeway transfer in a Rover of any kind that gets driven onroad also, are they safe in rear wheel drive only onroad?

P.S This is for a LSA 6L90 project RRC
 
Thankyou, the first answer that is helpfull!
So basically you have to run in 2WD at highway speeds, which doesnt work well in a Range Rover Classic due to torque steer.
For full time 4WD on the street (or for significant distance on a high traction surface), the transfer case needs something like a differential or fluid coupling that allows the front and rear drive shafts to turn at different rates.

The Atlas does not have any such means so you can't run in 4WD on the highway. Torque wind-up is more of a concern than torque steer.

I'm not familiar with all Rakeway transfer cases, maybe the have one with with a diff. Their reverse rotation case could be a killer unit for a rear/mid engine U4 type car.

I had an Atlas in a rangie. I couldn't get the LT230 close coupled to my gearbox because the long front output housing interfered with the gearbox housing. I tried an LT95 transfer case, which has a short front output, but the spline section in the input gear was too far back for the output from the gearbox. I had access to an Atlas so that got used. I was not keeping the rover axles so the centre rear output wasn't a deal breaker.

I have now swapped the engine and drive train into a 110 chassis and if I had that chassis before I would have used a divorced LT230 instead of a close coupled Atlas.

Other than issues like that, I can see little reason to ditch an LT230 for another transfer case. Possibly you want to change from a BW viscous coupling transfer case, and are looking at alternatives to the LT230.

IMHO use an LT230, and stick with front and rear diffs both offset to the same side for clearance issues.
 
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Bush65:25903785 said:
Thankyou, the first answer that is helpfull!
So basically you have to run in 2WD at highway speeds, which doesnt work well in a Range Rover Classic due to torque steer.
For full time 4WD on the street (or for significant distance on a high traction surface), the transfer case needs something like a differential or fluid coupling that allows the front and rear drive shafts to turn at different rates.

The Atlas does not have any such means so you can't run in 4WD on the highway. Torque wind-up is more of a concern than torque steer.

I'm not familiar with all Rakeway transfer cases, maybe the have one with with a diff. Their reverse rotation case could be a killer unit for a rear/mid engine U4 type car.

I had an Atlas in a rangie. I couldn't get the LT230 close coupled to my gearbox because the long front output housing interfered with the gearbox housing. I tried an LT95 transfer case, which has a short front output, but the spline section in the input gear was too far back for the output from the gearbox. I had access to an Atlas so that got used. I was not keeping the rover axles so the centre rear output wasn't a deal breaker.

I have now swapped the engine and drive train into a 110 chassis and if I had that chassis before I would have used a divorced LT230 instead of a close coupled Atlas.

Other than issues like that, I can see little reason to ditch an LT230 for another transfer case. Possibly you want to change from a BW viscous coupling transfer case, and are looking at alternatives to the LT230.

IMHO use an LT230, and stick with front and rear diffs both offset to the same side for clearance issues.
Cheers much appreciated! It looks like the LT230 is the go then for Rovers that see on and offroad driving then.
Ok will be running LSA, 6L90, LT230 with ATB centre diff either Quaife or Ashcroft

Are there any other weak points that can be upgraded on the LT230 like input/output shafts etc and who is the best supplier?..not really interested in changing the ratios as the 6speed will handle all the ratios I need just fine ;)
 
Cheers much appreciated! It looks like the LT230 is the go then for Rovers that see on and offroad driving then.
Ok will be running LSA, 6L90, LT230 with ATB centre diff either Quaife or Ashcroft

Are there any other weak points that can be upgraded on the LT230 like input/output shafts etc and who is the best supplier?..not really interested in changing the ratios as the 6speed will handle all the ratios I need just fine ;)
If you haven't discovered it already, I think you should read the "Lets Talk LT230" thread below this one. LT230's are the best thing since the invention of the wheel.:)
 
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