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#21 · (Edited)
Good to see you guys joining the mix and it will be good to see Marlin out more.

Quick hi-jack, I installed the 4.70 gears I got from you guys a couple of weeks ago, in my rear case last weekend. It was a piece of cake with your new instructions. Installed the Tcase today had to do the obligatory walk along side and steer, doing this :grinpimp: the whole time.
 
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Hey Chris.. so if this is the case... I use to have a Tacoma with w. E-locker (stock 4.10s as you stated) and went to 4.88s, how come it didnt need the a older flange? or visa-virsa..I still have these "30" spindle gears..so they wouldnt just fit into and run in an older 8" housing??
 
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TatonkaII said:
Hey Chris.. so if this is the case... I use to have a Tacoma with w. E-locker (stock 4.10s as you stated) and went to 4.88s, how come it didnt need the a older flange? or visa-virsa..I still have these "30" spindle gears..so they wouldnt just fit into and run in an older 8" housing??
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If you order 4.88 or 5.29 gears for a Tacoma rear 8" diff, the gear set should have the larger pinion, thus it will fit your existing, larger electric style flange.

The "extra" 4.10 gears you have will fit the older style housings. That's exactly what we are doing. We are installing the later electric gears in to non electric housings. I prefer Detroits but for this application we will be using ARB's. I believe the ARB's will give the best ability to turn.

I like the electric lockers I have front and rear on my FJ80 but the ARB's lock and unlock faster than the electrics do.
 
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Gawd I hate it when people say this. I call bullshit on this one... maybe if they are wired from the factory, but not if its a homebrew wiring job.


Chris Geiger said:
I like the electric lockers I have front and rear on my FJ80 but the ARB's lock and unlock faster than the electrics do.
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Chris Geiger said:
I'll be doing most of the compitition driving. If we can get this together before the first event of the year, we are going to give Lisa some compitition!
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I think it's that other Marlin sponsored rig you'll have to worry about :D :D
 
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Foxfab said:
Gawd I hate it when people say this. I call bullshit on this one... maybe if they are wired from the factory, but not if its a homebrew wiring job.
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my brothers TRD taco takes like 30 seconds to engage/unlock maybe longer??? (factory setup). my arb engages almost instantly, but sometimes wont disengage for awhile if im still bound up on an obstacle....
 
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The factory wiring sucks. I can lock up both my FZJ80 AND my 4Runner e-lockers within 2-3 seconds using a relay setup, its almost instantaneous. Now unplug the air line from your ARB and I'll unplug the power from my e-locker. Who will be crying now??? :flipoff2:
 
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Dam dude, that shop looks more like a yard! Makes All Pro look mint. :flipoff2:
 
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Foxfab said:
The factory wiring sucks. I can lock up both my FZJ80 AND my 4Runner e-lockers within 2-3 seconds using a relay setup, its almost instantaneous. Now unplug the air line from your ARB and I'll unplug the power from my e-locker. Who will be crying now??? :flipoff2:
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What I see with my FJ80 is that nothing happens when I turn on the lockers until I roll forward or back and turn at the same time. For this truck it's not a real problem on this truck, just turn it on before getting to the hard section.

In competition I won't have the room to roll very far. I know that both the ARB and Elocker won't unlock until most of the load is removed.

Seems like most times I am out on the trail I see someone with ARB problems, seals blown, compressor or air line problems. I would prefer to use a Toyota locker and it costs about 1/2 as much. I have plenty of both units on the shelves.

What to do...

Anyone else have comments as to the lock/unlock speed of electrics vs. ARB? I think I'll post up another thread.
 
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Chris Geiger said:
What to do...

Anyone else have comments as to the lock/unlock speed of electrics vs. ARB? I think I'll post up another thread.
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How about the cost difference?

I got my HP elec 3rd brand new from Toyota (with a small discount) for $750

How much is a Hp arb 3rd going for over there at Marlin, $1500?
And you need compressor too.

Im not saying elec is better, but I couldnt justify the extra $700 per diff.
 
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You should have seen it when I arrived this time last year. You could just barley move a truck into the shop. Now each day all the employees are able to park in the yard plus our two trailers. We still have about 6 trucks to get rid of. We are making progress.

Speaking of trucks in the backyard... anyone want to buy a 4Runner? This partially completed truck has a new fully rebuilt 350 motors and tranny installed. It still needs a wire harness and some finish works to get it running. $8,000 gets the whole thing.
 

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Chris Geiger said:
You should have seen it when I arrived this time last year. You could just barley move a truck into the shop. Now each day all the employees are able to park in the yard plus our two trailers. We still have about 6 trucks to get rid of. We are making progress.

Speaking of trucks in the backyard... anyone want to buy a 4Runner? This partially completed truck has a new fully rebuilt 350 motors and tranny installed. It still needs a wire harness and some finish works to get it running. $8,000 gets the whole thing.
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wrong section fawker :flipoff2:

good to see marlin getting to play with the rest of us.
god knows most of us wouldnt be able to without "the man"
 
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Next it's time to shave the housings.

For those that have not seen this trick before, you can cut off the bottom of the housings and plate it to increase ground clearance. We are going to do a step by step description to show some of the tricks to getting this done without leaks.

The first step is to cut out the bottom sction with a plasma cutter or torch. You must leave the ring around the housing that has the bolts in it.

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Using a grinder, we clean up the cutting and doing the final shaping of the hole.

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