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jubberjr

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OK guys and gals....I have a general fab question for the more experieinced members. If you could only buy one tube manipulating device what would you buys first? A Tube Bender or a Tube Roller? Why? I understand what I can do with a roller I cant do with a bender but what are some of the more needed fab needs I can only do with a bender?

Thanks for the Newbie Help.
 
What a stupid poll, even though I voted on it :flipoff2:

A tube bender is far more versatile than a roller for 95% of what we build. For example, you can't roll and entire roll cage. As funky as that sounds saying out loud....
 
you could, but if you are trying to match up to OE lines, other than a VW bug, a bender will let you get tighter to the sheet metal.

is a square a better use of space or is a circle? it is a personal decision, but UPS uses square boxed :flipoff2:
 
????:D:D:D:D
I know this is a full chassis and different than a cage...I only a little:homer::homer::homer: But why couldn't a guy apply the same principals to an exo-cage?
You are only allowed to do that if you live in the south.:flipoff2:
 
my choice would be to get a roller, cuz there are less of them out there.. i think...

you can find someone who can do what you need done on the bender.. and then do the rest on your roller..

you can take turns..
 
my choice would be to get a roller, cuz there are less of them out there.. i think...

you can find someone who can do what you need done on the bender.. and then do the rest on your roller..

you can take turns..
Stop giving advice in the newbie section.
 
Stop giving advice in the newbie section.
sure on here Im not an expert, but on offroadworld.net I have over 4,000 posts and responses.. but its a dead site now.. I actually used to be staff there.. in some circles I know stuff.. here the crowd is more hard core.. I think some of my advice is right, and everyone is wrong once in a while... and for the most part I read and dont post my thoughts as often as some people who are on my level..

you said "in the newbie" section, does that mean you accept my opinion in other sections??

the poll is just that.. it has 2 choices.. I just chose the less popular one, cuz I like to go against the grain.. and I think I made a point.. however unpopular.. I already have access to a good friend's bender, so if I were to choose, Id go the other way..
 
Ok, so using the exo as an example, using a bender will allow you to do everything you need to do to make the exo-cage. No, you won't be able to make big sweeping arches, but the same area can be protected just the same with a couple light bends and some straight tube. Now if you only had a roller, you would not be able to do everything to make the exo-cage. There will inevitably be some tight bend that will need to be done that a roller simply can't do. Unless of course, you are doing an exo on the above mentioned VW or something from the 1930s.

In addition, a guy I talked to that did a lot of motorcycle frames back during the whole "chopper" craze called the roller "a tubing waster". According to him, it takes a long time to get used to using the roller in order to make two or more duplicate bends and he said it developed a lot of scrap since the tube being rolled usually needed to be longer than the actual part in order to feed it through the rollers. I've never used one myself, but he seemed pretty experienced with it so I took it at face value.

If I were setting up a new fab shop, a tubing bender would be one of my first purchases right alongside a welder. A tubing roller would be one of the last and then only if I had the extra money, space and a specific job lined up to use it. A bender is a typical tool used in almost any chassis or cage build, a roller is a specialty tool used only in a few specific instances.
 
the poll is just that.. it has 2 choices.. I just chose the less popular one, cuz I like to go against the grain.. and I think I made a point.. however unpopular.. I already have access to a good friend's bender, so if I were to choose, Id go the other way..
You made a very illogical point that did nothing to help the OP with his decision. All you did was muddy the water. This is common sense.
 
If I was choosing to buy one I would buy a bender.

The only point ArTi54N may have is that if you have a buddy that all ready owns a bender and will let you borrow it anytime you need then a roller might be a good option.

p.s. ArTi54N I have seen you say way to much stupid stuff on here, 5 years ago these guys would have made you cry, I dunno why they got so soft ... some one must have got their peepee slapped for being an ass
 
I have both. To do a cage and get it done in this century use a bender . I can't imagine using the roller to do multiple sharp bends. For the most part the bender will get used 98% of the time. The roller works good for Cowell ,top of windshield, front bumper,and wheel wells to match the bodies radius . Helps take the jungle gym out of the hood. And if you do use a roller please take a time elapsed video of you do 45-90 degree bend and post it:flipoff2:
 
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Ok...Point Taken!
So I need to find a VW Beetle to base my rig off!!!!:flipoff2::flipoff2:

On a serious note...will a longer sweeping bend be stronger than a tighter bend? I think I know the answer to this but I guess do any of you have real world experience where a bend made by either a roller or bender was stronger or held up to impact better than the other?

Sorry if these are lame questions. I am trying to get a feel for cage design on my wagoneer. I am weighing my options and debating in my head an exo-cage or full interior cage.
 
Ok...Point Taken!
So I need to find a VW Beetle to base my rig off!!!!:flipoff2::flipoff2:

On a serious note...will a longer sweeping bend be stronger than a tighter bend? I think I know the answer to this but I guess do any of you have real world experience where a bend made by either a roller or bender was stronger or held up to impact better than the other?

Sorry if these are lame questions. I am trying to get a feel for cage design on my wagoneer. I am weighing my options and debating in my head an exo-cage or full interior cage.


I dont have an answer to your exact question but if you use quality tubing the weaknesses of the bends will not be an issue at all.
 
I dont have an answer to your exact question but if you use quality tubing the weaknesses of the bends will not be an issue at all.
And use good design.
 
Ok...Point Taken!
So I need to find a VW Beetle to base my rig off!!!!:flipoff2::flipoff2:

On a serious note...will a longer sweeping bend be stronger than a tighter bend? I think I know the answer to this but I guess do any of you have real world experience where a bend made by either a roller or bender was stronger or held up to impact better than the other?

Sorry if these are lame questions. I am trying to get a feel for cage design on my wagoneer. I am weighing my options and debating in my head an exo-cage or full interior cage.
If you are doing a wagoneer, the bender will be the best bet imo.
Especially if you go internal cage.
 
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