Tuesday questions. It's a fact not a myth

 

what does that mean?

 

I would love to see a Eagle build, I don't know much about dana 44's but my guess would be to gut a doner waggoner and put dana 44's front a rear with a dana 300. The 300 would get rid of the vacum problem, and the axles would give you lockout hubs. I have a soft spot for Eagles, Talon's, and toyota tercel's.

 

Yea I currently have 3 inches of lift and a 6000lb winch and "deer slayer" bumper on it.
This isn't just a weekend project this is gunna be my summer project along with a chevy 350 and 4 speed manual transmission also from a chevy.

 

Yes Cherokee axles would be a closer width but I think they would be weaker then the chevy straight axles would be

 

no, not really.


By far the easiest thing you could do is to go find yourself a donor cherokee for cheap and swap the whole drivetrain over. 4.0 will fit, cooling system will work, exhaust will be easy. save yourself a ton of headache.
If you really wnt to do a chevy drivetrain then take all of the eagle stuff out, toss it in the trash and plan on reusing none of it.
Then after you realize you're in far over your head you can sell it for scrap in 2 years after it sits.

 

I was gonna say that your chevy axle is the wrong drop, but if you are installing all chevy stuff, you're ok. Don't sweat the stock vacuum t-case, it's the wrong drop and won't bolt up anyway. Just use a chevy 208 or 241 and call it good. You may have to cut the floor though, I think the stock case is up into a well in the floor on the drivers side so you'd have to do the same on the pass side. My dad has an 83 Eagle wagon, I've often thought of straight axle and hi-low t-case.
Travis..

 

What do you mean wrong drop from the t-case?
I believe that all I have to do is cut a slot in between the seats for the stick on the transfer case

 

http://d44tech.com/Front_axle.html

 

Done right, which I don't have much confidence it would be, I would rather see a Eagle build, than another build featuring bunch of CNC cut plates TIG'd together with a $100k part budget.

 

According to the internet and other forums the easiest thing to do to make it the way I want is to pull all the drive train from the eagle and put the body of it on to the frame of a Chevy s10 or some other type of frame and just use the body of the eagle and just start from there

 

No that's dumb. The drop on the t-case is which side the drive shaft is on. Passenger side or drivers. To keep it easy keep the driveshaft on the same side as the stock eagle. Other than a 14 bolt Curvy axles are not really know for their strength per say.

And a 4.0L in a Eagle would be sweet. Much cooler then a 350 IMO.

 

why hack up a working eagle so you can have an S10?

do some research. lots of people have swapped 4.0's in place of 258s into just about AMC anything.
the motor mounts are identical.

whatever, your course is set. You've convinced yourself that shoe horning a 350 into an eagle is gonna be easy even though you don't even know what a drivers drop case is.

good luck, and I feel sorry for your poor eagle.
Do come back with your trar 9" body lift contraption so we can post it in the ghetto thread.

 

:laughing: not enough palms for my face

Cant wait to see the build thread! Post haste OP!

 

I've never heard it called drop. One of the reason I haven't started is because I'm going to college for mechanics so I have a better understanding of what I'm going to be doing and because I like workin on cars and stuff. I know that everything I'm talking about is gunna take a lot of work.I know the 4.0 will bolt in with the mounts but I want something that has more torque and power then the 4.0.
And I don't mean that I know everything and I do appreciate everything that you guys are telling me.
The main reason I want to put the Chevy 350 and all the other chevy stuff is because I have all of it just need to put it in the car.

 

you could sell the chevy stuff and have enough money to purchase a 4.0 donor.

You're worried about power, I'm worried about it actually getting done, or actually being able to keep it cool, or actually fitting in the chassis.

don't let me dissuade you with logic and practicality though, I want to see how this pans out.

 

don't let me dissuade you with logic and practicality though, I want to see how this pans out.

No need to worry.

I'm going to college for mechanics so I have a better understanding of what I'm going to be doing and because I like workin on cars and stuff.

 

I agree with the above. 4.0 can rip really well. Yeah it's not a SBC but it's still will be cool.

 

Our Turbo System

turbo 4.0 eagle is a panty dropping machine. shit's hot. add 258 crank and rods+turbo and you're well past stock shitty SBC carb power.

No need to worry.

:laughing:

 

Yes. There is a cool thread somewhere on here about turboing a 4.0.

 

This. it was for a long time the ONLY place on the internet that was on-point for the turbo sizing calculations.

 

Where do you live? The Eagle in good shape?

 

The eagle in tompson falls but I am currently living in Helena mt. Why?

 

sx4's look pretty cool. I don't know anything about them, but I'd sub to a build thread.

 

http://youtu.be/tymGc9PWJ5A

2 wheeling in style or four wheeling in the wild

 

Sx/4= 2-door.

1980 | AMC Eagles Den

 

Okay so my dad is giving me a jeep grand Cherokee that has a fuel injected 4.0L is there any way to swap it to carburetored? I know it makes no sense but imo carburetored is better and more reliable. Also will the differentials fit besides the shock mounts?

 

This is absurd. Why even bother swapping motors just to convert the 4.0 to a carburetor?

FYI my 91 4.0 has 180k+ and every component of the efi system is original minus the filter.



The grand cherokee uses multi link suspension and live axles front and rear. there will be nothing even remotely near "bolt on" or simple about installing them safely and effectively underneath an eagle.

 

Okay so don't try to swap the differentials. So if I fix the electrical issues and leave it fuel injected would I have to swap the wireing harness?

 

The grand is 93

 

you might have got lucky and have a AW4 in it now. That was the last year, before they switched to something else:

 

I belive it has a np249 t-case. It's alltime 4wd

 

Okay so if I do the motor swap would I beable to keep the stock eagle manual transmission? The grand Cherokee is an automatic if that makes a difference. Also would the eagle t-case work with the new differentials since its run by vacuum pressure?

 

no keep the automatic. use this: Baja

 

Why don't you use yer damn eyes, a pen, and a piece of paper. Go measure what you have and locate the tags on each item. That way you know what you have, ya know, fer research.
Use this Internet to search, go to junkyards, lay under buddies rigs, an measure their shit.
Once you know if the lengths work you can start researching bolt patterns, spline count and spline length.

Fawk that's my favorite part about building a rig and a lot of times it's a decent amount of work. Something that everyone on here has done. The issue I have is you just want us to give you all that, on a silver platter. Do some damn work boy.

 

Do some damn work boy.

This.

I know everyone has to start somewhere, but methinks you are biting off WAY more than you can chew.