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40 spline or 35 spline that is the question

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#1 ·
ok i am building my front dana 60 and i only want to build it once and not break it that often un like my current set up(dana 44) which gets broken every time i go out i have been reading just about every thing i can search for on 40 spline stubs for the d60 because i am looking to control colateral damage aka make the part that is going to break and not take any thing else out with it so i will be leaving the inner axles 35 spline cause when they go boom it will not mess anything else up

and adding up the cost it looks like it will cost about 2k to run the 40 spline stubs over running the 35 spline stuff

so i guess my question is what is the streangth differance between a 40 spline shaft and a 35 spline shaft and is it worth 2k


specs of the rig
sbc 327 with about 300hp for now, sm465, dana 300 with 4 to 1 low, rear axle is a ford 9" with a spool and front axle is hp ford dana 60 with 5.13's tires will be 39.5 PBR's right now 38" tsl's
 
#2 ·
Unless you are going all 40 spline inners and outers its not worth it.... I can break a cromo 35 spline inner and have a 35 spline cromo outer live....not sure why you need a 40 spline outer only.....

save your $2k for 9" upgrades.......
 
#9 · (Edited)
yes that is the 2k for extra stuff compared to going 35 spline shafts not included for axle shafts i was going to run yukon shafts clearance for 50 degree steering from branik and either yukon or bobby longs joints



I have a 40 spline front 60 inner and outer with CTMs very solid. I choose to run a bastard 1310/1350 slip on the front shaft as my fuse. But my drive shaft really can't do any collateral damage if it breaks. Easy fix, just unbolt and slid on a new one at the easy end.
i used to think that the ds was a good fuse until i took out an oil pan


The 300 in factory form I can agree with being a weak spot, but 9"s can be built up pretty nicely to hold up to abuse. Aftermarket case and 35 spline locker/shafts, good to go.

for the front (or rear) I think 35 spline axle would be good enough in the 40" tire range without becoming a weak point
not worried about the 9" when it goes boom dana 70 will go in and the dana 300 an atlas will bolt right in as a decent replacement i would buy one now but i don't know what i want for gear ratio all i have ever wheeled is stock tcase gearing and shitty axle gearing so i will see what the 4 to 1 is like and make my desion from there

The stock 30 spline outers like to do that. I haven't personally seen 35 spline outers break the long way and take out the spindle like the 30's do.
this is what i am trying to prevent
 
#5 ·
Ok i'm just a noob, but my axles are getting built for 40 spline rears since the rear axle sees a LOT of weight and traction during hill climbs.

The fronts i have gone 40 spline inners, CTM's and 35 spline outers.

Why? If years of wheeling yota gear has taught me anything, it's that no matter how beef yer shit is, something will eventually break. I want a fuse that is easy and inexpensive to get at and replace, and cheap enough to be able to carry spares.

I'm hoping (without having a huge amount of experience in this gear) that the 35 spline outers will bust first without taking out the u joints.
 
#10 · (Edited)
i'm running a LQ4 6.0 (dyno proven 295 to the ground), th350, dana 300 (big shafts front and rear, stock gears) 60 front, 14 rear with 5.13's on 39 krawlers.

in the 60 i'm running 35 spline superior's evolution 4340 inner and outer shafts, CTM u-joints, welded carrier and yukon drive flanges. in the years time since it's been completed, i've been pretty hard on the buggy at times and so far the only thing that has given way is a ring and pinion. the ring and pinion was in the axle when i bought it and i don't know how long or what kind of life it had before hand. it had a good pattern so i ran it.

40 spline stuff would be nice but i'd save it to spend the money on an atlas