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Bad Welding Wire Alert! Radnor

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#1 ·
My local wedling supply store merged with Airgas this Month. I used to by Pinnacle Mig Welding Wire and never had a problem. The store Merged with Airgas and now its 4 miles further. I went by to pick up some .030 Mig wire for my welder and they carry Radnor wire. For some reason I could not get my welder dialed in once i put the new wire on. I was having a problem and was getting bad uneven welds that i just couldn't seem to get right after making adjustments on the Machine and gas PSI. I finally decided that it had to be the wire. I took it back after about going through a 1/2lb. and asked to exchange it. The guys shrugged and told me i was doing something wrong or didn't know what i was doing. They had another 11lb. spool of Pinnacle form the old store so I was able to exchange it and once i put it the welder it was a night and day difference. Welds were clean and wire drive was smooth.

The guy said that Radnor is made in Mexico and made by Lincoln or for Lincoln. I will most likely not get Radnor again.

Has anyone had this kind of problem with that brand or any other? This was a first for me, maybe it was a bad batch.
 
#3 ·
I've heard several people complain about Radnor wire. I've got some .35 in my machine at home and it welds just fine, no problems. However at work we use Radnor tips/nozzels and other consumables and they suck! They don't last half the time the old tweco stuff did.
 
#9 ·
We buy and use pallet fulls of Radnor mig wire and haven't had any problems.

It may not be the wire, you should have someone watch the spool as you are welding. You're problem sounds alot like it is a spool wound problem, which means the spools are poorly wound and the wire is overlapped. Jerky and rough feeding.

We have had that problem but not with Radnor.
 
#11 ·
Yes there is a lot of bad mig welding wire out there.

I have some information about this issue on my website:
This is the direct link.: http://www.learn-how-to-weld.com/mig-welding-wire.html

A lot of companies will buy the wire from a factory in say China where I'm told there is about 300 manufacturers of wire and they simply make up a brand name and stick the wire in the box.

Over time they will have arguments with the factories and go elsewhere and when they do that the quality changes. So the moral of the story is to use a very good mig welding wire.

What's $5 more per spool of wire on a job that might be worth $50K. So you might have to pay an extra $200 bucks on the job because you used a better wire.

The time that you will save in downtime will certainly warrant the extra cost of a premium mig welding wire.

Peter
 
#19 ·
We weld everyday here also and the one thing in wire is you get what you pay for. Why people skimp on wire for their project amazes me when a normal guys spool will last a long time in a home shop...so buy good shit IMO.

Lar
 
#20 · (Edited)
Hmm, I just picked up 2 spools of .030 Radnor, have about half a pound of wire left on the spool at the moment, will have to see what happens with the Radnor stuff. Sucks that all the local welding shops were just bought out by Airgas and that's all they sell, so if it doesn't work well, I'm ****ed for buying locally.

Washington Alloy is the smoothest I've used so far, but unfortunately nowhere local sells it, when I lived in the OC I used to buy it it because it was cheap, but as I got better and tried other wore I found it was flat out good welding wire.


Edit, are you guys having trouble with 2lb, 11lb, 30lb spools, all none, just one size. Seems like they'd be the same, but who knows.
 
#21 ·
Why people skimp on wire for their project amazes me when a normal guys spool will last a long time in a home shop...so buy good shit IMO.
I THOUGHT it was good shit. For what Airgas charged for it, it should have been gold plated.:shaking: I don't see the local Airgas staying in business very long. They are way overpriced compared to the competition. That was the last item I bought from them.
 
#22 ·
I've had good success with Harris wire. I used to buy the 11# spool, but now run the 33#. I've had 2 spools of lincoln wire that were wrapped shitty, won't buy that crap again.
 
#24 · (Edited)
We used to use Esab wire, but our local weld supply was purchased by Praxair and now sells their house ProStar brand. They don't weld the same, but they are similar.

Sometimes you just get a poorly wound or contaminated spool with any brand. Seems to be very rare though.
 
#25 ·
I'm using radnor now but i think it's time to try somthing different for comparison... I did notice that it will surface rust after sitting in a dry shop, just enough that you have to wipe it with a white towel to notice it. Fed it through my liner and fuc$%3ed it up... $35 later:shaking:
 
#27 ·
Just had my welding supplier deliver a spool of Radnor wire... I turned it away and asked for something else.


Thanks to the original poster (and those who have contributed) for the heads up on this. :beer:


Chris:cool2: