Going to be looking into new shoes soon for my rig and im undecided between mud grapplers or boggers. Usually im a die hard bogger fan but was really impressed with a buddies rig on mud grapplers. Mostly wheeling in river beds n slop with a solid bottom,every now and then ill be on off camber hills n trails that are slick on the top, typical midwest wheelin. My rig is a 91 1 ton ford reg cab, 38x12.50 tsl's, 5 spd, turbo'd idi , kp 60 4.10s. Beat it like a rent a car.