Not that hard. Get rid of what im guessing is the crappy girling brakes..

Any mdt rear will work. again im guessing rear drum girling brakes with twinn wheel cylinders..

Later model international rears will have discs as is many other mdt trucks of late.

 

Post up a picture of the rear from the rear.
I like rear end shots!
That drop out looks Eaton'ish.
I'd try to get a newer rear end with matching wheels as is already on it, but have seen farmers that didn't care mix spokes and Budd wheels, just to get it done, cheap.
Most roofers around here are as cheap as farmers. (Tighter than two fingers up a toads ass).

 

Post up a picture of the rear from the rear.
I like rear end shots!
I'd try to get a newer rear end with matching wheels as is already on it, but have seen farmers that didn't care mix spokes and Budd wheels, just to get it done, cheap.

Get the numbers off of the Rating/Warranty Plates off the door, if it still has the original door. That will tell you what rear axle you have and the ratios. He probably still has 20" rims on it. You might want to go over to the big truck area of ford-trucks.com. Got lots of answers over there on the F750 my friend is fixing up.

You could probably get a used axle really cheap and it'd probably bolt right on (except maybe the u-joint/driveshaft). But the wheels and tires would also have to fit, and if he doesn't want hydraulic drums it's easy to find hydraulic discs, but I doubt the braking proportions would even be close to correct...

Depending on where he is in Co. Everything that would swap in might have been melted down in Pueblo by now. I would be more worried he would get a rear geared for a diesel and then blow up the 361 gas burner he probably has under the hood, since we don't know his motor or tranny.

 

Thanks guys. It has hydraulic drum brakes. It has two slave cylinders per wheel. I'll get more pics tomorrow am of the lugs and brakes. I think he uses the thing 5-8 x a year, so he's not looking for the holly grail of mdt axles. I'm near Denver and dude is ready.

 

You could probably get a used axle really cheap and it'd probably bolt right on (except maybe the u-joint/driveshaft). But the wheels and tires would also have to fit, and if he doesn't want hydraulic drums it's easy to find hydraulic discs, but I doubt the braking proportions would even be close to correct...

 

Here's a few more pics (I can only post 1 pic per post from my ipad, so here's a few post)
It is a gas motor, manual tranny, pto for the dump bed hydraulics, 20" rims.
The front are also drum brakes, so he needs help in the whoa department.

 

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Door tag

 

Not sure if this is helpfull, but


F60CVP21671

F60 = F600 2WD (gas).

C = 330 2V Medium Duty FT engine.

V = Kentucky Truck Assembly Plant.


F605 = F600 2WD (gas), 19,200 lbs. GVWR

438: 43 = Black all Vinyl / 8 = 81A Standard Cab

A = New Process 435 4 Speed Manual Transmission.

F3B: F3 = Eaton model 15201 Two Speed Rear Axle / 6.33/8.81 / 15,000 lbs. Rear Axle Capacity // B = 5,500 lbs. Capacity Ford Front Axle.

19,200 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

164 net HP @ 3,800 RPM

I cannot tell you which would be cheapest way to go. It just depends on if you can find someone with another truck and they don't think its an rare antique. With that mighty 330ci motor, you don't want to loose much of that gearing.

 

Personally I think it would be easier to have the shoes re-lined and get kits for the cyls than swap out the entire rear. Aren't there any good clutch/brake shops in CO?
Travis..

 

This x3
The hardest part of the job it's finding parts and can be done from a comfy chair, or leaning on a parts counter.
Whatever turd rear end he finds is going to need brakes too.

 

^^^^^ waaay less work and should last years if done right.

 

A couple threads to reference. The second link has ford part numbers listed.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1059469-part-number-for-1960-f600-rear-wheel-cylinder.html

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1273707-1971-f-600-brakes.html

 

yeah that's basically what I was saying, if he only uses it a few times a year there's no way that swapping axles is gonna be more cost effective than just hunting down the brake parts

 

Should be pretty easy to get brake parts at a heavy truck parts place, and/or a Ford Heavy Truck dealer.
That is standard hyd brake system, not the Lucas/Gehrling bastardized system that is so expensive.
Like was said, worst case, re-line shoes, and kit the wheel cels. And rock it!

 

Logic wins and we are going to try and rebuild/upgrade what we have. Question: what do you guys think about the master cylinder? Would adding a vaccum booster help? Hydro boost? The thing is drum all the way around, so it could use all the help he can get.
I'll chase parts this evening, but if any of you have some input, it would be much appreciated.

Cracky drums

 

Cute little master cylinder.

 

That should be just a slave cylinder, there's probably a vacuum booster on the frame

 

I agree on the vacuum booster down there.

Follow that rubber hose that does the 90 degree bend down and you'll find the booster. Just like on my International Loadstar.

 

X3 on the booster.
Also, the cracks in those drums seems very minor to me.

 

Go to Napa.
I have a '73 F600 and have the exact same driveline.
I'm not sure Napa has drums (I didn't need them) but they DO have master cylinders, Hydravac boosters with slave (complete), wheel cylinders and shoes.
Also, you can replace those wheels with deuce military wheels and gain enough width to run 10.00-20 tires. They are much easier to find.