[Talon2006]

This. If you want to try it, feel free. It's thin gauge tube, but you'll need to be dead nuts center. I was only off .005" at the most from center and even that was too much on a couple holes. Look at the construction of the table and you'll see why it's important to be centered. All of the assembled parts line up to center of the next part. The guy that extended his table to 50"+ welded his new legs together because it's a pain in the ass to get everything drilled on center and it's easier to just level the table and weld them in place.

Also, you can't get the torch high enough, you'd have to drop the piece down which isn't possible unless you remove the water table and make room for the tube. Or you can flip the torch holder upside down and run it from the top if you have a machine torch.

FYI, I have had good luck redrilling plasma cut holes with colbalt bits.

I really like drill hog on ebay... his stuff is cheap but seems to be pretty decent. Rumor has i the same plant that makes norsemen makes his bits.

 

[225557]

I also hate cutting square tube on my table. Ive done 2" and its so messy because none of the smoke gets down in the water. Suppose you could hook a vacuum to one end of the tube but that's annoying.

I just came here to bitch :flipoff2:

i have dust collector right above the plasma table in the wall
its where woodstove chimney was coming trough
i gotta build hood for it to catch more smoke

 

[not enoughsmoke]

following this thread and i just found me a new toy to buy for my projects

 

[NorIdaWheeler]

Got mine yesterday and got it up and running. order number 3424

Im actually pretty impressed. I was able to get some beautiful dross free cuts on 10ga with my little miller 375x.

Apparently Im one of the first that will get the new stainless water table so Im currently waiting on that and having to cut on open slats which is an annoyance.

Overall, color me impressed so far.

 

[gtxracer]

Got mine yesterday and got it up and running. order number 3424

Im actually pretty impressed. I was able to get some beautiful dross free cuts on 10ga with my little miller 375x.

Apparently Im one of the first that will get the new stainless water table so Im currently waiting on that and having to cut on open slats which is an annoyance.

Overall, color me impressed so far.

Great to hear! I'm really interested in seeing the stainless water table. I might make one if I have issues with the aluminum version. I run greencut fluid in it (2 bottles) but no issues thus far. I should drain it soon and check but I haven't had any problems at all.

Cutting on the open slats blows for sure though, I remember doing that for the first 6 weeks. :laughing:

 

[gtxracer]

Still plugging away on mine with parts. I made a link system with it and the edge quality over the entire span of the table is absolutely impressive. I've seen tables with THC setups produce parts with half this quality.

It cuts 1/4" and thinner materials with a quality unlike any table I've had experience with. The only cuts that have been better have come from a laser. I only use FineCut consumables now. Ridiculously good results and I'm extremely happy. I see people complaining about these tables yet they don't own one and have never used one. People complaining about the single sided gantry yet zero problems from mine and I haven't heard one complaint from anyone else.

I think people expected these tables to be a pile of crap and are a little hurt that they didn't order one. When you spend $4k, $10k, or even $15k on a table then see the same results from a $1600 table, I can understand. It's a shame to watch people badmouth this table without any experience. Hell, most of the hardware has been ENGLISH sized and the dimensions I've see thus far are all ENGLISH based for spacing and nominal sizes used everywhere.

I'd do this again today if I needed to. A+, 5 stars, it's been awesome.

 

[Deuling]

If you guys wanna save a few bucks on the green cut fluids, I run like a friggen half gallon of this in my table for like 50 gallons of water and have barely added any in like a year.

Scroll down like halfway to the Plasma WT. ITs $99 for 5 gal bucket.

I know green cut was pricey as shit. Also my water table is just mild steel, and this stuff makes it not rust.

www.puritygas.com/marketing/Purity May-June 2017 (003).pdf

 

[Deuling]

Still plugging away on mine with parts. I made a link system with it and the edge quality over the entire span of the table is absolutely impressive. I've seen tables with THC setups produce parts with half this quality.

It cuts 1/4" and thinner materials with a quality unlike any table I've had experience with. The only cuts that have been better have come from a laser. I only use FineCut consumables now. Ridiculously good results and I'm extremely happy. I see people complaining about these tables yet they don't own one and have never used one. People complaining about the single sided gantry yet zero problems from mine and I haven't heard one complaint from anyone else.

I think people expected these tables to be a pile of crap and are a little hurt that they didn't order one. When you spend $4k, $10k, or even $15k on a table then see the same results from a $1600 table, I can understand. It's a shame to watch people badmouth this table without any experience. Hell, most of the hardware has been ENGLISH sized and the dimensions I've see thus far are all ENGLISH based for spacing and nominal sizes used everywhere.

I'd do this again today if I needed to. A+, 5 stars, it's been awesome.

That's great to hear. I think its just more of a bummer for the guys with companies because the market will now go from fairly saturated with the 5-10k options, to literally everyone having one of these.

But im hoping its just the stupid artsy/fire pit markets that get flooded. I could care less about losing that business. I get no joy out of it lol.

I totally would have bought this if it was around when I purchased mine. Ive spent far more money on much more useless tools.

 

[gtxracer]

If you guys wanna save a few bucks on the green cut fluids, I run like a friggen half gallon of this in my table for like 50 gallons of water and have barely added any in like a year.

Scroll down like halfway to the Plasma WT. ITs $99 for 5 gal bucket.

I know green cut was pricey as shit. Also my water table is just mild steel, and this stuff makes it not rust.

www.puritygas.com/marketing/Purity May-June 2017 (003).pdf

Thanks for this. I'll give it a try when this greencut is done in a few months.

That's great to hear. I think its just more of a bummer for the guys with companies because the market will now go from fairly saturated with the 5-10k options, to literally everyone having one of these.

But im hoping its just the stupid artsy/fire pit markets that get flooded. I could care less about losing that business. I get no joy out of it lol.

I totally would have bought this if it was around when I purchased mine. Ive spent far more money on much more useless tools.

Same! I have no desire to compete with the signage goobers that just cut art. No thanks! 10% margins are no way to run a business and those people undercut each other constantly. I make them for gifts and that's it.

Ironically I still want a 5x10 table when I have the space. :laughing:

 

[chowpay]

what laptop you using ?
my old Mac dont like f360
its 2010 machine idk if i should try to upgrade it or just get new one

I am running a 2010 MBP, i use vmware fusion with a windows 7 vm to run mach 3 and native OSX (im on high sierra) for Fusion360 Its works great!!

 

[Deuling]

Thanks for this. I'll give it a try when this greencut is done in a few months.



Same! I have no desire to compete with the signage goobers that just cut art. No thanks! 10% margins are no way to run a business and those people undercut each other constantly. I make them for gifts and that's it.

Ironically I still want a 5x10 table when I have the space. :laughing:

After working with the 2 sizes (my 4x4 and my buddies 5x10) unless you have a nice big open shop with lots of room for pallet racking, a 5x5 would make me the most happy. Storing full sheets and being able to safely load them is a pain in the dick.

It normally doesn't add much to my orders to have the sheets cut in half (unless you are ordering assloads of sheet cut in half).

 

[old ugly 54 chevy]

Got mine yesterday and got it up and running. order number 3424

Im actually pretty impressed. I was able to get some beautiful dross free cuts on 10ga with my little miller 375x.

Apparently Im one of the first that will get the new stainless water table so Im currently waiting on that and having to cut on open slats which is an annoyance.

Overall, color me impressed so far.

my order # is just shy of 4800... the wait is going to kill me is everyone still liking their crossfire? Any gremlins pop up yet?

 

[225557]

love it
i really need to extend the gantry like gtx did
i couldve use it this time to make pieces bigger
im repairing frame on f350

 

[225557]

p

to make bends i made this simple press out of scrap angle iron and square tubing

 

[gtxracer]

Nice work on that press brake. I made one like that a few years ago but bent it doing my typical shenanigans. Now I have the SWAG finger brake and it's pretty rad.


I'm still digging this system. Nearly every person that sees my parts compliments the cut quality which is a reflection on the table's precision, the Hypertherm Powermax 65, and the dry air of my compressor. Gotta say, most people look over that last one and don't understand why their tips burn out or the cuts have jagged edges in them with inconsistent results.

Still running on the same FineCut consumables I started with months ago and I've cut 3 full sheets of material already including 1/8, 3/16, and 1/4. I'm talking about smaller parts, using the entire sheet eventually. This is hundreds of pierces and zero height adjustment during the cut, just level the work piece, set height, and cut. Table is a little on the lightweight side but I can make a new table down the road with a 4-5ft Y axis. I may expand the X axis at that time and add a THC but overall it works perfectly for my needs.

 

[freerider15]

Buddy ordered his a few weeks ago when they were running the $250 sale.

He got the 1/2" plasma, water table, etc.

He's in Korea for a few weeks (work), but it should arrive sometime between now and then.

Looking forward to getting it up and running.

He and I joke that I'm ready to buy a whole few sets of replacement consumables already :laughing:

 

[225557]

Nice work on that press brake. I made one like that a few years ago but bent it doing my typical shenanigans. Now I have the SWAG finger brake and it's pretty rad.


I'm still digging this system. Nearly every person that sees my parts compliments the cut quality which is a reflection on the table's precision, the Hypertherm Powermax 65, and the dry air of my compressor. Gotta say, most people look over that last one and don't understand why their tips burn out or the cuts have jagged edges in them with inconsistent results.

Still running on the same FineCut consumables I started with months ago and I've cut 3 full sheets of material already including 1/8, 3/16, and 1/4. I'm talking about smaller parts, using the entire sheet eventually. This is hundreds of pierces and zero height adjustment during the cut, just level the work piece, set height, and cut. Table is a little on the lightweight side but I can make a new table down the road with a 4-5ft Y axis. I may expand the X axis at that time and add a THC but overall it works perfectly for my needs.

yeah thats on list to get the swag press brake
dry air is extremly important, without the HF dryer i couldn't make any decent cuts, i thought the machine was broken :laughing:

now i can run the machine w/o problems and consumables last long time


cutting 1/2" plate with 30A machine it kills them quick but its really too thick it takes long time to pierce


1/2" plate
new consumables




1/2"plate
old consumables are usually fine on thin stuff but gives crazy bevels @ 1/2"

 

[freerider15]

So I could use some insight from those here that have been running it.

My friend recently got his after I introduced him to this thread shortly after it started.

He got the Razorweld RazorCut45 that you can buy with the system.

We've been using it mainly lately to try and cut brackets for me out of 1/4".

We could use some help in trying to figure out some things.

We've tried various amperages from 30-45, and feed rates from 15-25ipm trying to get the cleanest cuts. The machine is capable of 1/2" supposedly, so 1/4" should be no problem. We would adjust by increments of 5 on either.

We've tried cutting left (CW) and right (CCW), and various other things.

What we've noticed is that one side of the bracket will be rather smooth, looks great, and the other side is rougher and has more bevel. This didn't seem to matter with cutting direction (CW or CCW).

Examples:

The best we could get @ 20ipm and 45A (max amperage):

You can see one size is nice and smooth, barely any bevel. The other side is rougher and has more bevel. The lead in/out is visible there.

This was @ 20ipm and 40 Amps:

From there they were all either rougher, had more bevel, etc.

I've moved to undersizing the holes quite a bit, drilling them out. The tend to have a bit of oblong-ness to them, and a bit of bevel.

So some things I'd appreciate if anyone who's been running it could give input on:

- Feed Rates their running (1/4" is what we're trying to dial in)
- Amperage (I do realize this and feed rate do somewhat depend on cutter being used).
- Cutting direction (CW or CCW, does it matter?)
- Torch height - are use using the thinner or thicker spacer?
- How are you going about cutting holes? Nothing I'm seeing says that I should plan on holes not needing to be undersized and drilled out.
- Feed in/Feed out - Speeds, general tips on placement, angle, etc.

Overall the brackets that we've cut have been fine for me with a little clean up and drilling out of holes (everything is 5/8" currently).

However it would be nice to get the system really dialed in. We cut out probably a dozen of the same tab yesterday evening trying whatever we could.

 

[Inferno]

I had the same problem on my DIY table.

I've narrowed it down to consumables.. in a way.

My procedures..

chuck in brand new consumables and make a single bracket.. the start - finish cuts will likely be very close and accurate to one another.

Then as you get 2-3 brackets in you'll start to notice the bevel appearing. I did this a few tmes, and concluded that I was trashing consumables. Granted I have a handheld machine, not a CNC ready plasma cutter.

From there I determined that the only real things that are going to cause the rapid deterioration is pierce height, cutting height, and finally air quality. I've been working on the air quality issue for a while now, and I think I've got it taken care of.. my air was likely a little damp.. so now I'm cooling it before it goes into the tank, and then pushing it through a dessicant dryer.

Take a look at some of the consumables you're using. I was seeing the tip start to oblong, turn into an oval more then a circle.. and eventually it would kind of have an edge of the smooth opening in the tip blow outwards.. if that makes sense.

 

[freerider15]

Well, we cut some more brackets out yesterday.

Drained the compressor, added two filters and two desiccants inline.

Put brand new consumables on, still same issue.

I did notice something that has me a little on the table itself.

The table doesn't fully sit level, and the slats aren't all the same height. I can put a piece of steel on it, and there is daylight under some of the slats.

I'll see about getting pictures, but some of the stuff we cut, I'm not sure I'll be able to use...it was THAT bad. We cut out 6 brackets total. The last two, all the edges had a 45* bevel to one direction, as if the torch was completely slanted.

We'll keep working on it over time, but so far, not 100% impressed with the table.

I'm sure if we had a Hypertherm unit with fine cut consumables the cuts would be nicer. But a Hypertherm was also 2x the cost, and it's not my setup.