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Herculiner Pros & Cons?

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#1 ·
Well I was going to put Herculiner on the floor of my CJ, been reading on some of the sites that sell the stuff and they say it can get "Tacky" in hot weather and can crack if you let liquid pool in one area. Anyone have any first hand experience with this? Would you use it again or use something else? Thanks
 
#3 ·
Installed it last summer, love it.

I never had the smell people bitched about. Mine never gets tacky. Had it in for more then a year, and I love it. One of the best interior improvements I've done so far.

It never cracks, its water resistant for crying out loud! Water just beads up! It will however leave a stain were the water sat which is easy to fix.

For it to get tacky you'd have to live someplace were it got over 100* or something but thats crazy its not going to melt.

It does fade, but I found if you really care about it just take some wet tire shine and WIPE IT DOWN, it will be slick as crap with it on.




Once its on, its pretty much there. I had one little spot peel off around the pedels area, but it came off with some paint I didnt get off which was a mistake on my part. You can remove it by using a scraper and a lot of acetone soaking. And it stains your skin, just don't be a dumbass, put some gloves on.
 
#4 ·
I put it in and I am generally not happy with it. I spent a couple of hours on the prep work with cleaning sanding and washing, drying, etc. I used the entire gallon and put it on heavy in the footwells and rear cargo area. It has peeled up and rubbed away in the areas where I rest my feet while driving. It has done okay in the back except for where I drug an NP435 across it. It has chipped away in the areas where I only did one heavy coat. All in all, though, for 1/6 the cost of getting it professionally done, it's not a bad deal.
 
#6 ·
I did several thin layers and it worked fine. I can smell it but its not bad definitly better than moldy carpet. The only bad thing about it is that it is hard to lean but then agian its a Jeep so how clean does it have to be
 
#8 ·
If you want to do it and make it look good spray it in with a undercoating gun. Thin it out a little and spray it in. It goes on very nice. It will be even and you dont have to brush or roll it in. One thing though they say use a saftey mask for the fumes and from experience get one. Not the cheap dust masks but a good resperator mask. I sparayed mine 2 years ago and love it. Only peeled in one spot that gets alot of ware.
 
#9 ·
jeepguy616 said:
If you want to do it and make it look good spray it in with a undercoating gun. Thin it out a little and spray it in. It goes on very nice. It will be even and you dont have to brush or roll it in. One thing though they say use a saftey mask for the fumes and from experience get one. Not the cheap dust masks but a good resperator mask. I sparayed mine 2 years ago and love it. Only peeled in one spot that gets alot of ware.
What did you use to thin it with? Also did you put it on in one coat or do more than one? Thanks for all the info from everyone.
 
#11 ·
This stuff bonds to itself and like paint you must do it a little at a time and do it in many coats within a few mins of each other (I only waited 20 mins I think it says to wait an hour?).

Don't do your rollcage in it unless you padd it around your legs, you'll learn why the first time you wear shorts. Will rub you raw if your used to leaning on it or you use a clutch.
 
#12 ·
Bondobob said:
What did you use to thin it with? Also did you put it on in one coat or do more than one? Thanks for all the info from everyone.
Probably Xylol (sp), that would be my guess.
I did mine 4 weeks ago, so I have no input on long term use. My only advice is the prep work. Get rid of thier sanding pad and use 40-60 grit, expose as little metal as possible, take your time. I hired some neighborhood kids to sand mine. It took 3 of them and me about half of the day.
It looks great.
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PS: Buy an extra quart, more the better.
 
#14 ·
I coated the entire interior of my Trooper, and the back 1/2 of my '73 CJ-5. The Trooper has been done for a good 6 months now. This stuff is awesome!

I did not prep it as much as others and I have not had a problem. I did put a VERY thick coat on the high use areas (Near Pedals, etc..). It really helped with shit sliding in the back though.

I made sure most of the dirt was out, whiped everything down with a good amount of Acetone til the paint started to come off. Then I just put on 2 light coats (Hour or so in between, temperature varies time) and then coat the shit out of it the last time. Using the roller gave me way better texture and consistancy than the brush.

You use Xylel to thin out the Herculiner. Another trick I find is to get the Duraback <sp?> kit. Not the liner, but the tools. The roller, brushes, and the disposible trays. I also double up on the Nytrile Gloves. If you get it on an area you dont want it, catch it quick. Put some Acetone on a rag and rub it away. Once it dries, tough shit.
 
#15 ·
NotSosimple said:
If you get it on an area you dont want it, catch it quick. Put some Acetone on a rag and rub it away. Once it dries, tough shit.
That's the gospel! I got that stuff on my hands and almsot never got it off. Hell, I ended up useing a scouring pad and taking a layer of skin off with it :eek:
I've had in in my CJ for a few years, and it has held up great.
 
#18 ·
I used it on my step rails. It's really tough stuff. I've gouged them to the metal and the Herc doesn't flake or peel. OTOH, don't get it on your skin. Google Houtus for a complete explanation. I took the approach of less is more with regards to clothing thinking I could clean my skin easier than I could clean it out of cloth. WRONG! Wear old clothes you'd be willing to throw away and I'd recommend gloves. That stuff is just as hard to get off of skin as it is to get off of metal.
 
#19 ·
peccavi18 said:
why expose as little metal as possible? I was just about to buy the stuff this weekend cuz I had the durbak and it was crap and peeled big time so I removed it with a wire wheel on a grinder, and my paint went with it.
I read alot before doing this. Some reports of it not sticking well to metal as opposed to paint. Maybe to smooth, I could be wrong. Someone like to chime in on this?
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#21 ·
I've had mine in the yj for almost a year. It has peeled under the pedals pretty bad. I did 2 thick coats, maybe I should have done smaller ones but oh well. It faded terribly, and looks terrible. BUT it gets rained on all the time and no worries. That is why I bought the stuff and its done its job.
 
#22 ·
If you read the directions on Herculiner it says to ONLY thin it out with Xzylene. I just added 1/8 Xzylene to the herc and test sprayed it and I think it took some more to get it to come out good. I preped the inside of the jeep with a 90 degree angle grinder with a 60 grit pads. I then wiped it all out with Xzylene and taped the areas off. Then sprayed the first coat that covered the whole thing. I let it sit until it got tacky to the touch then sprayed a nice heavy even coat. It only has 2 coats on it. I will add another maybe next year.
I know a guy that brushed his in and it looks terrible. It did not spread the rubber particles out enough.
NOTE- if you spray go and get a paint mixer that goes into a 1/2 inch chuck dill and mix the can and every time you stop to add more in the gun. Guns are cheap at places like Harbor Freight and even auto supply places. I looked at Harbor Freight but they did not have any in the store near me so I got one at the auto parts store. Had to order it and only cost $30 which is actually expensive for what it is. Then I used a AllSport drink bottle attached to the gun(gun does not come with a can) then is a throw away deal.
 
#25 ·
Herculiner is awesome... I just finished doing my cj-7 with it and it looks wicked. I did the whole thing inside and out and it looks really sharp.

A couple of tips:
1) do the prep work that is key
2) primer any bare metal
3) spray a base coat of Dupli-Color bedliner. It's half the price of Herculner and goes twice as far, not as textured though. You'll have enough left over to use for under coating.
4) roll the herculiner on in two coats. I put mine down enough to get the texture i wanted for the first coat, then a few days later use up what is left to get the thickness.
5) when it fades (and it will) just spray paint it. theres no slick or slippery after effect at all, and it won't cost $40 either. also handy for changing the overall look.
6) if it does tear, peal, or wear out... the stuff bonds to itself, buy another quart and patch it up.
7) glove up. like everyone else has said this stuff will not come off your skin.

I first used herculiner on the rust repair areas on my 76 Trail Duster. I'm not a body man, but you couldn't tell where my repair work was. And it is now hiding a multitude of sins on my formerly rusted out CJ-7.

I also did my 86 Samurai four years ago this way and I'm still impressed with it.

I wonder if I can get an endorsement from herculiner, or atleast a bulk discount...