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#1 ·
Does any one rebuild power steering boxes?
My 87 toy pickup only gets used offroad but I'm getting
tired of filling the fluid. and autozone want $350.
 
#2 ·
Marlin has them:

Rebuilt IFS Steering Box
When installing crossover steering on a 79-85 truck your going to need an IFS steering box. We carry a quality rebuilt unit that is perfect for your crossover steering project. IFS steering box mounts to frame using mounting kit below. Rebuilt boxes carry full 1 year warranty.
Rebuilt IFS Steering Box $275
Used IFS Steering Box $175

All-Pro has them!~!

IFS Steering Box
Rebuilt boxes: Each steering box has been thoroughly cleaned and inspected. Internal gears are checked for wear and straightness and replaced as necessary. Spool valve is power flushed. All critical dimensions checked. New bearings and seals are installed throughout. Each unit is pressure tested and adjusted to factory specifications. Lifetime replacement warranty! $399

You can buy a seal kit from Toyota for about 50 bucks and do it yourself!!!! :grinpimp:

Go to a junkyard and find a used one!!!
 
#3 ·
where is it leaking from?
you can probably get a new seal for the sector shaft from dealership seperate, cant be THAT hard to replace
 
#4 ·
Pietro said:
where is it leaking from?
you can probably get a new seal for the sector shaft from dealership seperate, cant be THAT hard to replace
You have to take the box apart to replace, might as well replace the rest of the seals while you are in there!!! :grinpimp:
 
#5 ·
true

try lookin at the dealership for a reman box, they are really good quality
i know you are thinking i am on crack to buy stuff at the stealership but i know for a fact that yota just slashed prices on all of the reman stuff like compressors, calipers, trannies, steering racks, etc.
they want to compete more with aftermarket junk
 
#8 ·
thanks for the pm erg801. Ill get in touch with him .
I call the stealer they want $2000 for the steering box.
No that was not installed. There service dept will not rebuild one he said it was to hard.
I think I need a nother dealer.
 
#9 ·
wow, that price sucks. i would just drop a few hundred and get one from allpro or marlin
 
#10 ·
Try some Lucas oil. After you go through a couple bottles it will be fine.
 
#12 ·
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239127&highlight=steering+box+seal

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239127&highlight=steering+box+seal
This looks like the best rebuild link, thanks xtoys
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Ok, i`m gonna make the rebuild , found a good article for it

Steering Box Seal Kit
http://128.83.80.200/taco/box.html
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ElGato, I saw the commercial on speedvision....
El Gato said:
Try some Lucas oil. After you go through a couple bottles it will be fine.
ok, is this just bullshit or what? If "or what" any clue how it stops leaking seals and personal experience that the seals don't suddenly have an ebola quality spontaneous hemmorage:barf: in 30, 60 or 90 days ? I would love to just pour in the magic shit but this seems way too good to be true. Is this a "used car lot" quality repair or the real deal?



http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124549

onichol said:
For the 88-95, I have one here in front of me. It is kind of hard to
figure out which is the part # but it has 90311-19002 which I think is
the p/n. It also has AO1-01-L5 and a reference # of FS253252. Hope those
numbers help.
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This link has an interesting question from
EricB said:
,"problem is though, is it that outer seal that is bad, or is it some of the high pressure teflon seals further inside leaking high pressure into the normally lower pressure area?
http://home.4x4wire.com/erik/

These guys iiuc stock the seals and do rebuilds
http://westtexasoffroad.homestead.com/hydrosteering.html

also here's another link AaronT (upsidedown) sent me for box identification
http://www.wildyoats.com/hydraulic_assist_tech.htm

someone has to really know the answer to this question and **** "swap another box in". Does the leaky box mean more than bad seals always or even usually? I wouldn't want to shitcan an otherwise good box over $50 of seals "if" that's all it takes to get another 100,000 miles from the box. On the other hand if you can get one for $70????? I'd like to hear from someone who knows high pressure leaks from low pressure without a sales pitch or a vendor link.


I know I don't know...but I'd like to. :confused:
 
#13 ·
I tried to get a rebuild kit from the dealership for my FJ60 box.. and was told not available. The FJ60 box is just like a IFS box, except it's a forward pointing pitman instead of backwards pointing.

So I headed over to my local bearing & seal shop in Emeryville, and got new seals for $15.

If it's the teflon seals leaking, your hosed. There is only one in the box that can leak to the outside - it's at the bottom of the box, in the sector shaft. There is a seal, a c-clip, a metal washer, an o-ring, and a teflon ring. The seal at this location goes down to get it out. And high pressure could possibly pop the seal out.

You might be able to pop that seal out, and replace it without tearing the box apart. Otherwise, it's a full teardown to replace that seal.

The other seal that is on the box, is in the input shaft. This seal can be replaced with out a full teardown; you simply pop the front nose off, and replace it. In my FJ60 box, there is no teflon rings in that location.

Both seals are available from a bearing/seal shop for total of about $15, plus any shipping (one seal was in stock in Reno, and the other was at their "other" SF Bay area location..)

There is two o-rings in the nose of the box - one seals a high pressure channel, the other seals the whole nose. These two o-rings is almost a full box teardown to replace.

The two other places on my box it can leak is the via the top adjuster nut - which uses a funky seal/washer, and the cap the adjuster is in, which is an o-ring.

Now, where is it leaking? If it's one the input shaft, it's just the seal. If it's down at the pitman arm, it's just a seal. If it's around the box guts, it's bad o-rings, and that's easy to fix too.

Or just go buy another used one that doesn't leak for about $100, and be done with it..
 
#14 ·
Ok, I just checked my reciepts, and the boxes for the two oil seals.

The input shaft seal is a 19x32x7mm oil seal.
The pitman arm shaft seal is 32x40x5TC seal

Both are common, off the shelf seals.

Chances are good one of these two seals are the problem.
 
#22 · (Edited)
does anybody know if there are any seals at a local parts store that you could cross reference with the 32x40x5tc seal you mention? i know the 19x32x17mm oil seal is available at napa for $5.32 part # nos7007 mfg by skf

i live in a small town and napa is usually my only hope other than the dealer that i cant stand.

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i found this after searching on this site, im going to get one tommarrow to compare with the one thats in the box now

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=SKF&MfrPartNumber=14004&PartType=921&PTSet=A
 
#16 ·
tdavis said:
Ok, I just checked my reciepts, and the boxes for the two oil seals.

The input shaft seal is a 19x32x7mm oil seal.
The pitman arm shaft seal is 32x40x5TC seal

Both are common, off the shelf seals.

Chances are good one of these two seals are the problem.
Thanks, this is the answer I was looking for.
Do you happen to have pn#s?
I'm getting that the simple answer is ,it's not worth the effort for $100 unless it's the input seal?



Foxfab said:
Please,Please, Please take no offense at this but "tech" would include, but not be limited to, "here's a link to my for sale ad". You are obviously knowledgable enough to rebuild a box, tips hints pics a tech writeup, please? I don't work for free but surely no one will go out of business by explaining the effort it takes to perform the service they want to be paid to do? The writeup link I posted above is missing the two most vital shots, getting the recirc balls back in and setting the preload.
http://128.83.80.200/taco/box.html
(WARNING:This guy has written possibly the funniest shit I have ever read so don't get distracted.)

I'm not anxious to tear a box apart having become educated to the finer points of the process, but life shouldnt be "throw money at it because I'm not going to tell you the secret handshake my friend."

Again, no offence, I don't think you'll lose that much business giving away the "secret" but will instead demonstrate the value of your skill.


:) If I spend $50 each for two sets of seals and a day of psychotic ball juggling hell and the box still leaks, don't you at least want to be able to say "I told you so"? :D
 
#17 ·
tdavis said:
I tried to get a rebuild kit from the dealership for my FJ60 box.. and was told not available. The FJ60 box is just like a IFS box, except it's a forward pointing pitman instead of backwards pointing..
That is weird, I just bought the big telfon seals at Roseville Toyota, when I was ordering them they asked if I wanted the complete kit and I said no just these and I showed him which ones. Two days later I had them. I was not at the regular parts counter but the ones the Techs order their parts at. :grinpimp:
You might be able to pop that seal out, and replace it without tearing the box apart. Otherwise, it's a full teardown to replace that seal.
Cannot be done, you have to take the box apart to change this seal.
ok, is this just bullshit or what? If "or what" any clue how it stops leaking seals and personal experience that the seals don't suddenly have an ebola quality spontaneous hemmorage in 30, 60 or 90 days ? I would love to just pour in the magic shit but this seems way too good to be true. Is this a "used car lot" quality repair or the real deal?
You hit the nail on the head, it is bullshit.
 
#19 ·
tdavis said:
Those ARE the part numbers when you go to a seal/bearing shop.
The input shaft seal is a 19x32x7mm oil seal.
The pitman arm shaft seal is 32x40x5TC seal
cool

OOP'S said:
Originally Posted by tdavis said:
You might be able to pop that seal out, and replace it without tearing the box apart. Otherwise, it's a full teardown to replace that seal.
Cannot be done, you have to take the box apart to change this seal.
Ok,
sector shaft (pitman) = complete teardown

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input shaft = pop it off and replace the seal '86-'87?
how do you set the preload?

input shaft = pop it off and replace the seal '88-'95
just the 4 bolts and it's not rocket science?

Is this correct?

Is there a seal on the adjustment screw (I guess this doesn't matter if you'd best not try the sector shaft if you don't want to do a full rebuild)?
 
#20 · (Edited)
dumass said:
Is there a seal on the adjustment screw (I guess this doesn't matter if you'd best not try the sector shaft if you don't want to do a full rebuild)?
Yes, it is a washer with an O-type ring bonded to it. Comes in the kit!!!!

You can get a complete kit from this guy,e-mail him for details:

John A. Vargus
P.O. Box 201195
Austin, Texas 78720

sic@sbcglobal.net