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Sheetmetal Tech...Building the firewall, floorpan, skins, etc

9.2K views 28 replies 19 participants last post by  rotozuk  
#1 · (Edited)
I've been dreading this since day one but the time has come to do the sheetmetal on my beater. I know a cod hair more than schit about body work so I thought I'd get some pointers before I dive in head first. First off, I'm using all sheetmetal, no alum. What thickness should I use for the floorpan. I want something thick enough so I don't get the bumpity bump if I put my full weight down on it but thin enough to be practical weight wise and to work with. I got the AA catalog but I can't decide which body tabs are the best to use. I'm thinking one of these?
http://www.aa-mfg.com/pdshop/shop/item.asp?itemid=304
or
http://www.aa-mfg.com/pdshop/shop/item.asp?itemid=587


Should I use the same tabs for the floorpan and the skins as well? What thickness metal should I use for the skins? I want something thick enough to provide protection and take a hit.

What are you guys using for a sheetmetal break. Am I'm going to have to break down and buy one? Any alternatives? I'm sure I've got more questions I haven't thought of so just pour it on. Mabye this will become a good tech thread. Thanks


edit: here's a pic of the pile so you guys can see what I'm working with

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#4 ·
I used 1/2" OD tube, welded tabs and nuts on it, bent it accordingly, and framed out my tranny tunnel and dash. We cut 1/8" aluminum laying around to make the panel inserts for the framing, avoiding having to bend but 1 panel. If I used steel would have probably gone with 18 or 20 guage. I originally made my dash from 22 and although it was solid enough with everything bolted in, it seemed to thin.
 
#6 ·
if you're not going to get into structural ribs then go with 16ga. for the floor. 18ga is too thin unless you have a lot of sub structure. Often times you can make patterns & take the sheets to a sheet metal fab shop & they'll bend it up for you. the steert rod guys always use 16ga. for the floor & usually 16ga for the firewall. sometimes they'll use 18 but not often. 16ga,. is also easier to weld. Search for Lame's rig ("floor is half done") for more ideas. You'll need a pretty stout bender to work with 16 ga. tho'.
 
#8 ·
floor skins without any sub-structure or "X" bent into them, I'd go 16ga.

dash panels, non-contact/no-weight structure panels could go 20 ga.

side-panels for rock protection/sliders, I'd go 10-14ga AR steel.......

(AR steel) = abrasion-resistant.... very hard stuff. comon use for stuff

like caterpiller hoods, floor panels, anything needing to have a 50-year

equipment-duty hard life........... not very easy to find, not cheap when

you do find it.........

--Sherpa
 
#14 ·
i would use 16 ga for the floor. you could roll some beads or "ribs" in the floor to add strength if you have access to a bead roller or pulmax or know a shop that might. stainless would be cool for a dash but 20 ga would do the trick to. you can do a lot of shaping with a few hammers, slapers, shaping bags and a shrinker/stretcher if you can get a hold of some. theres lots and lots of options out there, good luck! by the way sweet rig.
 
#15 ·
I know I always enjoy seeing people that start a thread, get good info, then follow up with what they did instead of the typical web wheeler BS. So, here's the latest. I didn't know where the hell to start before I posted, so I took the advice I got from here, and decided to go with 14ga sheet metal for the floorpan/firewall and .090" aluminum for the side skins and roof. I think the thicknesses are going to be perfect and so far it's been a breeze to work with. Plus, I think it looks great. Thanks for the info guys :beer: . Here's a couple pics...the little lady was in the shop with me so she jumped in :p

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#19 ·
I'm using tabs to bolt on the side panels...they are aluminum and I want them to be easily removeable. I'm welding in pretty much everything else (sheet metal) unless I feel like I want to be able to take it off easily (ie tranny access, t-case access, etc).
 
#22 ·
I got my tabs from AA. They are by far the cheapest for this kinda stuff. After a lot of research I used part# AA-023-D Body Tab. They are .125" thick with a 1/4" hole and have the little wings. They are definitely stout enough for panels.

Csudman, make it easy on yourself and order the tabs :)
 
#23 ·
I am getting started on Rocktoy's floor. Gunna be .90 alum, tig welded panels together.

*******, on the side panels, it is nice to have the tops roll over the bar. Makes it feel nice to the arms, does not rattle. I am going to use #10 pan head screws for the side panels, and just drill-n-tap the cage.
 
#24 ·
redneckengineered said:
I got my tabs from AA. They are by far the cheapest for this kinda stuff. After a lot of research I used part# AA-023-D Body Tab. They are .125" thick with a 1/4" hole and have the little wings. They are definitely stout enough for panels.

Csudman, make it easy on yourself and order the tabs :)

A slightly different tab that has more sureface area and costs a bit less is the AA-028-*. Different hole sizes available and still .125 material.
http://www.aa-mfg.com/pdshop/shop/item.asp?itemid=278


-Wayne