http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/product.php?productid=688&cat=260&page=1


you put the chain through the pocket from the top then up and hook the "hook" to the stake pocket

this way if you get any slop the chain hook will not come loose

you can prob get just a short chain set with a loop on one end if you already have straps


or just get weld on D rings

 

put the chain through the pocket from the top then up and hook the "hook" to the stake pocket

this way if you get any slop the chain hook will not come loose

yep, thats how I would do it. Look at how truckers do it, same idea.


Either get straps with the chain on them like the link, make up some 'links' like you mention, use chain and binders to begin with (I won't go there with that argument... besides, I'm a strap guy myself) or start adding your "D" rings. The chain links would probably be the quickest, you could probably make them at your local "box" store with parts off the shelf in 1/2 an evening.

 

http://www.uscargocontrol.com/ce12516pl-p-87.ht

 

Thanks for the link, looks like exactly what I am looking for. Just couldn't find anything like it locally.

Andy

 

I just got a set of these, I can hook however I need to:
http://www.awdirect.com/finditem.cfm?itemid=9253


Michael

 

I took one of my straps in to the local farm store and did some checking. I was able to clamp it into the link of a 3/8 G70 chain. So I just got a copule of feet of it and found I already had a copule of extra hooks in the parts bin at home.

Ready to roll now.

 

Here are some pics. of something that I'm looking at making for people. These are D-Ring to Stake Pocket adapters. These fit in almost all stamped, straight stake pockets found on trailers and truck flat beds. They DO NOT fit tapered stake pockets. I'm in the testing stages right now to see how they hold up and what might need to be changed if anything.

 

Good idea, what about incorporating the mount as a swivel? Does the side of the bracket have distributed contact on the surface of the pocket to distribute the load?

 

Those are sweet! I wonder if you could make the box tubing longer and then a hitch pin thru them?

 

I was wondering the same thing; that setup relies on one bolt in tension, whereas the stress on a hitch-pin would be in shear at two points.

One other question, unrelated to that tiedown point: has anyone ever had a stake-pocket tear away from the rail? I noticed the pockets on my Big Tex have only a single bead on the outside, which may very well be sufficient. It just looks like it could be stronger.

 

Good idea, what about incorporating the mount as a swivel? Does the side of the bracket have distributed contact on the surface of the pocket to distribute the load?

I did think about a swivel, but it would only drive up the cost of the unit and be harder to produce. If I could get them casted, then I think that a swivel would be easier to produce. The bottom retaining bar of the adapter holds to all three bottom edges of the stake pocket to give the most support possible.

Those are sweet! I wonder if you could make the box tubing longer and then a hitch pin thru them?

Yes, this could be done. I did the bolt method to keep them tight, plus, stake pockets come in 2.5", 3", and 3.5" in height. So the bolt is easier to adjust by tightening. A pin would have to be left very sloppy.

 

What I'm testing to find out right now, is if one bolt (like the picture) is enough or if two bolts are needed. There is just only so much space, and one bolt is a heck of a lot easier, and would in turn, be less money to produce and sell. At the same time, I must consider safety, and must make sure that the one bolt is plenty of holding power. I did use flange bolts so that they won't come loose once they have been tighten. Oh, and the bolt used is 1/2" Grade 8 Flange Cap Screw with a 150,000 psi minimum tensile strength, and I could go up to the 5/8" size.

Also, would it be worth it if a set of four ran $75? They're not exactly cheap to make.

 

$75 for a set of 4 would be reasonable, I have stake pockets and 4 welded D rings on my low boy but the rings are in the wrong spots no matter how I load the Jeep. I'd rather spend $75 on something I can move around than paying $50 or more for 4 more weld on D-rings that I can't move.

I'd be more interested in a set with the D-rings welded on sideways or at a 45 so that I'm not pulling sideways on the D-ring when doing the loading. I wouldn't trust a swivel unless it was really beefy and that would probably cost a lot more.

 

Andy,

Not to pee on TG's idea, which I like, one fairly easy way to make stake pockets hold strap hooks better comes from a friend of mine and I'll probably do a couple of my stake pockets.

He drills 3/4" holes in the center of the stake pocket with a hole saw. He then can put the strap hooks directly on the stake pocket and the strap is not touching or rubbing on anything.

Hope this helps.

Al

 

Trailer Guy, them are EXACTLY like something I came up with about a year or so ago, but never got made.

and the hitch pin could go thru the stake pocket front to rear, so it doesn't stick out past the rail if you go that way.

 

OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRREEEEEEEE you did.:flipoff2:

The hitch pin is a good idea, but would require the end user to drill a hole in each side of every stake pocket. Now, if end users where willing to drill holes in stuff, then the Jeep Newbie section wouldn't be so damn busy with "What do I do now?" type of questions. As far as a marketing point of view goes, a non-drilling style application will sell better, so of course, that is what I'm aiming for.

 

Multiple holes for the hitch pin should take care of the problem, if you use a long enough piece to slide through the stake pocket.



Yes, this could be done. I did the bolt method to keep them tight, plus, stake pockets come in 2.5", 3", and 3.5" in height. So the bolt is easier to adjust by tightening. A pin would have to be left very sloppy.[/QUOTE]

 

I might just use that idea for the stake pockets i have now.

Your bolts would be too short for mine anyway. They are 7" deep. :laughing:

Heh... it occured to me that finding 1.5x3.5 box could be difficult too. My stakes are 2x4 3/16.

 

Man who the hell welded that thing? Did you do it with your eyes closed?
Almost looks like something I welded (but that looks better than mine):flipoff2:

 

Are you saying that I weld better with my eyes closed than you weld when your eyes are open? Well....of course I do, but that isn't really saying much.:flipoff2:

Beat95YJ: Yeah, I can get straps like that too. That works killer for strapping down a rig/car, but I'm looking more towards general purpose use (strapping all types of cargo). Oh, could you let me know how the color holds in those. I've found that red is a really tough one to keep the color and not fade. If those don't fade out, they'd be nice. Red is the toughest one, so I don't advertise selling that color anymore, from any brand. I'd like to see the long term looks after a year or so of use.

 

They make ratchet straps with "clips" on the ends that go in the stake pocket or rub rails.

http://www.uscargocontrol.com/winch...l.com/winchstraps4x30wflathook-p-35.html?zenid=be6bee657aa4f54c3a769af3d391bb74

 

those won't fit in the stake pockets tho, and on a lot of trailers, they won't fit inside the rub rail either.

or at least the ones I have used won't

 

Just get some new mastercraft straps. Chain at the trailer side, standard axle loop at the other end.

Link to original thread.

 

I like the stake pocket adapter idea, however I would weld the bottom plate to the rectangular tubing, so the adapter would be inserted from the bottom of the stake pocket. The top plate would be cut to the same size as the rectangular tubing, and a simple pin to hold the adapter up while you're rigging the staps. This way there is no fear of the bolt becoming loose or breaking. You would have to have a dedicated size for each stake pocket height, though.

FWIW, I use a short loop of chain with standard oval threaded connector, it works fine for me.

Pete

 

Trailer guy,

I worked for a guy, hauling all sorts of things on a flat bed trailer. We came up with something similar below. The only real expense was the swivel lifting eye. Worked great, and IMO would be easy to build in "production".

 

The D rings I put on my trailer were like $10 each, I forget the rating, but they are the standard size like in the pics trailer guy posted.

My tie straps are all USAF cargo straps that we tie bombs, etc down with. We had to shit can a bunch at work because they weren't labeled correctly :laughing: