[rock-rod]

The mustang 5.0 was never offered with a C6, they only came with AODs and T5s. The only other option is to switch to a truck style injection system.

 

[Brandon]

The mustang 5.0 was never offered with a C6, they only came with AODs and T5s. The only other option is to switch to a truck style injection system.

so? the issue is wether or not the vehicle had a manual or auto option, not which one specifically. They never came with a 435 either but I passed no problem..

BTW the car I got my engine from had an aod, and I passed without question with a NP435

 

[randii]

so? the issue is wether or not the vehicle had a manual or auto option, not which one specifically. They never came with a 435 either but I passed no problem..
BTW the car I got my engine from had an aod, and I passed without question with a NP435

What I draw from this is NOT that it generally doesn't matter -- what I get is that the individual opinion and attitude of your smog referee has more to do with getting approved than the specific setup of your vehicle.

Plan to be able to make a coherent case for what you've done, and then roll the dice... if the smog ref buys it, you're golden, if he black-flags it, your screwed.

Randii

 

[rock-rod]

What I draw from this is NOT that it generally doesn't matter -- what I get is that the individual opinion and attitude of your smog referee has more to do with getting approved than the specific setup of your vehicle.

Plan to be able to make a coherent case for what you've done, and then roll the dice... if the smog ref buys it, you're golden, if he black-flags it, your screwed.

Randii

I think you are right on this.

Following the rule book specifically means that the engine/transmission combo must be a factory arrangement. Perhaps the smog ref didn't know there was a difference between an F-150 EFI 302 and a fox body EFI 302.

 

[Brandon]

I think you are right on this.

Following the rule book specifically means that the engine/transmission combo must be a factory arrangement. Perhaps the smog ref didn't know there was a difference between an F-150 EFI 302 and a fox body EFI 302.

Yes, factory arrangement as in from the factory that engine had the manual or the auto option - since the computers are tuned (which would affect smog) differently. Which tranny shouldn't matter but I suppose a smog natzi could interpret how they want..

I didn't have any problem though, but I did switch my manual computer to an auto one..

The other option is to go presmog :flipoff2:

BTW what smog monkey is gonna know the difference between an AOD and a C6 anyway?

 

[Jason M]

BTW what smog monkey is gonna know the difference between an AOD and a C6 anyway?

None that I have seen..

That is what I am relying on

Course, Nevada does not sat anything in the regs about tranny, just motor.

 

[randii]

BTW what smog monkey is gonna know the difference between an AOD and a C6 anyway?

The smog refs ain't monkeys.
Now what you run to get the conversion tag in the first place (smog ref), vs. what you run to get past subsequent smog checks (smog monkeys) is a whole 'nother discussion, one that I have parts on the shelf already in plan for.

Randii

 

[Hackfabricaton]

Wow, wish I'd found this board three years ago! My project is a 1976 Jeep CJ5, Ford Racing 5.0 crate motor, T18, TeraLow Dana20, ARB locked front and rear 4.56 axels.

I've seen a bunch of hydraulic clutch setups, but is anyone using the stock mechanical linkage? I've got a bellhousing off a 1979 Ford F series that I want to use, and there doesn't look like a whole lotta room up on the firewall for the hydaulic setup.

Thanks

 

[syko]

Wow, wish I'd found this board three years ago! My project is a 1976 Jeep CJ5, Ford Racing 5.0 crate motor, T18, TeraLow Dana20, ARB locked front and rear 4.56 axels.

I've seen a bunch of hydraulic clutch setups, but is anyone using the stock mechanical linkage? I've got a bellhousing off a 1979 Ford F series that I want to use, and there doesn't look like a whole lotta room up on the firewall for the hydaulic setup.

Thanks

I used the mechanical linkage when I had the jeep T-18a. I moded an f-series bellhousing. I used the truck headers to clear everything. It worked fine.

 

[Hackfabricaton]

Great! I didn't want to have to get a different bellhousing. Did you use the Ford Racing truck headers? Or stock?

 

[rock-rod]

None that I have seen..

That is what I am relying on

Course, Nevada does not sat anything in the regs about tranny, just motor.

knowing my luck I would get the one guy that looks under the jeep and notices the big 'C6' stamped on the pan.

 

[Jason M]

Just say it is an aftermarket "performance" pan...


BTW, I thought that I was going to have an issue with the kickdown cable on the c6, nope, stock T bird KD cable works perfectly with some fabbing of a cable mount. It is even long enough to run the intake on the PS...

When i get it together i'll post a pic.

 

[CarConnoisseur]

I just bought a 5.0L V8 out of a '95 Mustang GT. I plan to put it in my TJ, but I don't what transfer case to put behind it. I plan to have a Dodge NV4500 tranny, and I'm trying to avoid buying an Atlas II. Any suggestions?

 

[Jason M]

D300, stak, 203 to whatever you want....


There are a ton of available options..

 

[YJTOOPLAY]

Lookin to swap

Hey guys I have a couple of quick questions for you. I have a 89 yj that i use as a work vehicle for daily driving in the mud. My 4.2 is getting tierd and I have come across a 86 f150 with a 5.0ho from a 2000 pony already installed in it. Now I am not sure if it has the stang comp or the f150. What i am hoping is to take the complete wiring,exaust,and dressing if there is room and would like to use the C4 or C6 thats in the truck ( It is a 2wd so i hope i can just change the output shaft and tail housing) and my questions are;

1) should i use my stock np231 transfer case that i have or should i swap with something else.

2) will the stock diffs hold up to the increased power. I am running 33's right now.

 

[Joel77]

Hey guys I have a couple of quick questions for you. I have a 89 yj that i use as a work vehicle for daily driving in the mud. My 4.2 is getting tierd and I have come across a 86 f150 with a 5.0ho from a 2000 pony already installed in it. Now I am not sure if it has the stang comp or the f150. What i am hoping is to take the complete wiring,exaust,and dressing if there is room and would like to use the C4 or C6 thats in the truck ( It is a 2wd so i hope i can just change the output shaft and tail housing) and my questions are;

1) should i use my stock np231 transfer case that i have or should i swap with something else.

2) will the stock diffs hold up to the increased power. I am running 33's right now.

I thought the F-series 5.0 engines were not HO...

You should switch the T case as well...

 

[Hackfabricaton]

Hmmm....Better check out the engine again. By 2000 all the 'stangs had 4.6 modular engines. Not 5.0 Windsors. Having said that: I'm not certain in the F series trucks were SEFI (sequential electronic fuel injection) yet. I owned a 1987 Grand Marquis 5.0 that was SEFI, but it was the SD (speed density) system, not MAF (mass air flow).

The HO engines have a different firing order than the regular non-HO 5.0. If it is a true HO engine it could be using one of the many Mustang EECs (electronic engine control) that are available. You won't know for certain until you locate the EEC and get the code off it. Popular models for the MAF EEC-IV engines include the A9P, A3M, A9M, A9L. Some of the SD computers are: DA1, DB1, DC, DE.

If the engine is running okay in the truck, I can't see any reason why you couldn't swap it into the Jeep. You'll have to pull the computer and all the engine wiring out of the truck and work it into the YJ.

 

[Tripod]

o2 sensors on your 5.0

I'll be ready to do my exhaust in a couple of weeks and I need some info regarding o2 sensor(s). I've tried to search but "o2" won't work with the PBB search engine :mad3: .

I have a 302 from a 98 Exploder. The wiring, computer and accessories are from an 89 Mustang. This will be a trailer queen that will be exempt from SMOG next year so passing the sniffer this year is not an issue (lucky me). I will not be running any cats...just a muffler. I'm not doing dual exhaust...just single to the muffler.

I'm trying to figure out what will allow the motor to run the best. Who is running o2 sensors...who is not running o2 sensors? Pros/Cons? For those of you running o2...where have you welded in the bungs (just anywhere after the header?)?

I'm sure this has already been covered...replys and/or links are appreciated.

Steve

 

[rock-rod]

I'll be ready to do my exhaust in a couple of weeks and I need some info regarding o2 sensor(s). I've tried to search but "o2" won't work with the PBB search engine :mad3: .

I have a 302 from a 98 Exploder. The wiring, computer and accessories are from an 89 Mustang. This will be a trailer queen that will be exempt from SMOG next year so passing the sniffer this year is not an issue (lucky me). I will not be running any cats...just a muffler. I'm not doing dual exhaust...just single to the muffler.

I'm trying to figure out what will allow the motor to run the best. Who is running o2 sensors...who is not running o2 sensors? Pros/Cons? For those of you running o2...where have you welded in the bungs (just anywhere after the header?)?

I'm sure this has already been covered...replys and/or links are appreciated.

Steve

According the the Ford Racing manual that came with the street rod harness I bought, you want to install the left and right O2 sensors about 4 inches downstream of their perspective collectors. For best driveability, I would install them both. You can get away with running just one, but it will probably trigger the CEL. The ECU will have a hard time going into closed loop with out them.

 

[spectra]

I am not running any smog stuff either but do run both O2 sensors. Like Rock Rod said it might make it hard for the ECM to run like it should.