Sounds like this is one of those YJ's with the factory-mandatory-in-order-to-run alarm systems?

Can of gas and a match, wala!

 

im not sure whos the bigger assclown here, a guy who has a cluster**** of wires under the dash or a guy who buys said jeep with cluster**** of wires before ensuring it will run properly:flipoff2:

 

Thanks for the useless relplies. The wires were shoved up underneath the steering column so I had no idea this guy had ****ed with it at all.

When I bought it, it ran as smooth as a 93 can run. Its def old and I need to obviously replace some parts on it, but still tryin to fig out this prob in particular.

If anyone has some real replies, that lead to some help in the matter, that would be great.

 

Does cussing qualify this as hardcore?

 

try the MAP sensor. don't know why it would have gone bad or been unpluged but my buddys YJ had the same symptoms and it ended up being the MAP. just a thought.

 

Thank you for this suggestion. My previous comment went towards those other retards.

If the MAP sensor was bad, wouldnt it not allow me to start and idle it when I gave it some gas?

The jeep will start and run with me holding the gas down lightly. As soon as I release the throttle it dies.

 

Wow. Yet again, another usless reply. Thanks the comment though, I guess. Can anyone HELP???? and not give stupid remarks? This is an annoying prob and need it fixed asap!

I guess I joined the wrong forum since the only hardcore techs responses i get are losers bored at work responding.

 

that thing is crazy!

 

also to note no CEL's.

 

Post in the right section and you won't get flamed replies(well, hopefully not). As said before, this shit ain't hardcore tech. There's a reason why each of the forums have "Read this before Posting" at the top of the forum.

You can also try the folks at jeepsunlimited.com. That's probably a better location for prompt responses for questions like this.

 

It was nice of you to post pictures of the thing though?

Moved.

 

the pictures are to show everyone that im not some newbie with a stock 93 jeep who doesnt know whats going on. Ive done some serious work on it on the outside and it was all done by me and my brother in our garage. I have never taken it to any kind of mechanic.

Now I just have an electrical question that only one person seems to answer and that actually went towards my question.

Guess this site isnt as helpful as i thought it was

 

So basically your saying there isnt anyone with any electrical knowledge in the HARDCORE TECH area ??? I posted in this forum with the intent that one or more of the 50+ veiwers would know something, anything to help my situation.. If your not that person attempting to help then what is the reason in even taking the time to post useless info ? This is obviously not a newb question. Its requiring someone with experience and specific knowledge of electrical wiring. I had to re-splice the harness and my suspicion is that im not getting enough/constant voltage after the intial startup. Thanks for the link though. maybe they'll have some "hardcore techs" that can help.

 

First of all, your jeep does not qualify for hardcore. Your rig screams nothing but bolt on Mall Crawling junk.

Second of all, you were making your self look like an ass hat. This is pirate. If you can't stand the heat, leave. People in the hardcore of this site BUILD there OWN wiring harnesses. Rarely nothing is bought or bolt on in Hardcore.

Third, Go buy a Chilton's book on your jeep. There are complete wiring diagrams and diagnosing steps. I have one personally for my 93 YJ and have used it plenty of times.

Im going off a limb here, but your problem sounds like the TPS. And why did you jump in to something with zero knowledge is beyond me. You can try and wire everything back up like it was WHEN you bought it and see if that cures the problem. Then research before hacking anything.

I wouldn't think the MAP has anything to do with it, but as said before earlier, that cured the problem for another person. Go get a book, It will take you through the steps as I have said. Good luck

 

You obviously have no idea whats going on. It will start. If it was TPS then it wouldnt even start. I thought since you have used that book several times and made your own harness you would have some knowledge in the subject.

But you had nothing positive/informative to put. With all of these guys, you say, built their own shit from scratch, one of you "with all of that experience" would have some kind of great advice that could help out a lot.

The previous guy attempted to install a dual relay passive starter kill system. There is mis-match wiring, some not even connected, shoved up underneath the steering column.

Thanks for finding my topic important enough to respond though.

And all of these stupid ass responses are irrelevant to the topic and im looking for help not jackasses who are wasting everyones time in reading what pointless comment they have to make, as stated above. This isnt "heat" to me, its just stupid.

All im asking is that people post helpful, intellectual advice that may help out.

And make fun of my jeep all you want, ive only had it for 5 months and it went from stock to what i posted up there. I pay for my own college, car, and house and still pimpin it out. So hate all you want, ur just wasting your time.

 

i agree with you 100%, when ever you try to get a question answered theres never no one but smartass replys, if i want a newbie answer i will ask a newbie, and prob get the wrong information, you would think you would be about to ask in the hardcore section, from hardcore wheelers that has probably had the same issues and problems could be heapful in answering your question so flame on boys, what ever happen to people with common interest helping each other???????

 

Thank you. Holy shit. Im asking a question and asking for some feedback and all i get are stupid, non-helpful, ignorant answers instead of anything remotely helpful. All im looking for is help. If I wanted to waste money on a book then I wouldnt have joined this site. Im on tight budgets right now so Im looking for cheap, experienced help.

 

problem soloved. Thanks to basically none of you who tried to help. To those of you who had some insight and some actual advice, thanks.

 

So what was the problem?
Travis..

 

Sounds like IAC valve sticking (just in case someone else searches for this and is looking for the answer). You can stop banging your spoon on your high chair now.

 

I am a person with little interest in recieving dumb replies. The reason I got pissed is b/c its my daily driver and not just my play toy so when i dont get anything that leads towards answering my question, ya it gets irritating. I agree that bashing other ppl wont help but i mean, come on, they can at least try to make a suggestion before rippin on me or bein just a flat out smart ass about stuff. That was the point i was trying to make. I thought that posting it here would be more helpful since some of them may have been through this before. And the problem was a combination of a few things.

1). Terrible wiring
2). IAC valve was sticking
3). Bad terminals
4). had to get new alternator in the end.
5). couple of bad grounding spots

After fixing the wiring, cleaning IAC valve and grounds, and new alternator it finally turned over and after warming up it started to idle on its own.

I will apologize for my harsh comments earlier. I just thought it was going to be easy problem to fix but when running into all of these things, it just got more and more frustrating. But thanks to all of you who had something helpful to say.

 

I am a person with little interest in recieving dumb replies. The reason I got pissed is b/c its my daily driver and not just my play toy so when i dont get anything that leads towards answering my question, ya it gets irritating. I agree that bashing other ppl wont help but i mean, come on, they can at least try to make a suggestion before rippin on me or bein just a flat out smart ass about stuff. That was the point i was trying to make. I thought that posting it here would be more helpful since some of them may have been through this before. . . . . .

. . . .

I will apologize for my harsh comments earlier. I just thought it was going to be easy problem to fix but when running into all of these things, it just got more and more frustrating. But thanks to all of you who had something helpful to say.

So you go into other peoples threads in the dark side and **** up a entire great thread full of tech with no notion to read the entire thing and make your self look more of an Asshat with zero knowledge of what you are trying to bash but the only thing you do is rattle the cage therefore pissing off the big dogs and all hell breaks loose on you:shaking:

Your a tard. Go away. Go get on a yahoo groups forumn where you belong with all the other tools.

 

[stupid question alert]What is an IAC Valve, where is it located on a 4.0L, and what is its function?[/stupid questions] I did search, lots of threads talking about IAC valve, none found answer my questions.

 

IAC (Idle Air Control) valve is located on the side of the throttle body. When the engine is at idle the computer opens and closes the valve to control idle speed.

 

what about the alternator?

 

The alternator is still producing a charge but its 15 yrs old so I went ahead and installed a new one. I thought it was that as well but after testing it while i turned it on it proved me wrong. Thanks for the suggestion though.

 

mine is DD able too... but and in non-hardcore. :smokin: tho many of the mods i have posted in hardcore

 

Which is fine **IF** you are asking a hardcore question such as how to build a one off suspension. However, if you ask how to bolt your Smittybuilt bumper on, you should expect lots of flames.

 

Well, after reading through all the smoke and mirrors, I was going to say your
problem is definitely a low voltage situation as the YJ/TJ don't like to idle when
the voltage is low. Sounds like you got it figured out. Start your jeep, disconnect your battery and see how well it idles.

A couple of corroded connections is all it takes some times. I have a kill switch on the ignition of my jeep and if you throw the switch
in the wrong direction it gives enough voltage to start the jeep, but it won't idle or run, but it will start.

 

Good advice man. Ive noticed the idle is a little off as well lately so Im going to check that out. And yea, when I realized part of the problem was the terminals, of course I was pissed. Prob the most annoying, simple fix electrical problem that no one realizes or thinks about.

And yea, I plan on doing the kill switch also. For safety mainly. Thanks for the tip though.

 

i know you fixed the problem, but i cant help but throw some shit into this, you say a jeep wont run with a bad TPS? well guess i got lucky, it ran like total shit but still ran when mine went bad, and when it came unplugged (buddies playing jokes)

 

ive had two vehicles that started and ran poorly with a bad tps.