also this jeep will never see payment and never over like 25 mph
it has to pull 3000lbs worth of gear on a small trailer

 

Sounds like fun. But I would think this would cost way to much for dunk hunting alone!

What kind of small trailer is going to follow a TJ on 42x24 tires?

 

tell him to get a damn boat !!!! :shaking:

 

to save weight go with a 60 front and a 35 spline 60 or 70 rear..... they should hold up fine since he wont be "wheelin" the jeeps

 

search under steve gerstner. he's got recent pics in gen4x4 of some rigs of this type.

 

the trailer will be a 8x10 aluminum trailer wieght about 700 plus decoys and gear

thanks for the search

 

Sounds like some some 6x6 military trucks with troop hauling benches in the back would be better for his needs. I know it sounds like overkill, but so does monster Jeeps imo. And would be cheaper in the long run for parts and maint.

 

I would go rockwell's and pinon brakes.This way you can get rim's easier to fit on the axle that will hold them tires.Pm windrockguru http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/member.php?u=39942
He has turf tires on the rear of his rig and has a friend that has them all the way around.I figure pinon brakes will keep it cheap so maybe you can get the job.60's would work but I would worry more about them breaking it if they got it stuck in the mud.Email me if you want some link's to wheel's etc..and in the meantime I will look through my favorites to find the websites where I have seen this stuff at.I would go with the 6cyl motor so it has enough power to spin the tires if needed.If you are a good fab guy maybe you can sell him some custom built buggy's that way you make more money in your pocket instead of buying new jeeps then tearing them apart.Just a idea.I would also go auto tranny to keep it customer friendly for his guest.There are people out there now day's that can not drive a stick.You could quote him 5 4 seater buggy's,gm crate 350 stock,th-350 or 400 with a np 205 behind them.Just do a simple cage design and you could even put gun rack's built into the cage for him.I bet you could build them cheaper for him thatn buying the jeeps and modifiyng them and make more money.

 

is the trailer gonna have 42's also?

 

good idea ripper i will check on the buggy type vehicle
i am no where near good enough yet to build one from scratch but i know some people out there make them like BTF and others i am sure
the trailer will have some kind of slick on it he discribe it to me but im not sure what it is

 

Maybe you could get the chassis from BTF or someone and then just finish them up.They mightcut you a deal since you would not need near as much tubing as a normal buggy they build and you would be getting 5 of them.If not also check out www.wickedcustoms.com and email Ryan about taking care of you.He seem's to have great prices on chassis and you could even tell him you want hrew instead of dom to save some money.Hrew is about $3 a foot less than dom.

 

tomorrow when everyone is open i will shop around
he was aloting 10k for each jeep so i would have to build each buggy for that minus axles tire and wheels, and suspension

looks like this is going to be a major learning experince for me and the shop
i am excited and ready to get to work

 

where is a good place to buy rocks and what is a good price

ps this need to be in your links to rockwell ?'s

 

Does he actualy want these to float or is he just hoping for something that won't sink into bad bogs.

For high floatation on soft ground these and these are great.

This is actually amphibious.

Jeeps and duck hunting just don't go together, there is no place to put a wet dog.

You could always try putting a TJ body on a Bombi drivetrain. It would be differant anyway.

 

he want something to go in flooded cutover and fields it does not have to be amphibious.
how well do you thing the snowcats will do in 1 1/2 to 3 foot of water and the machines can not tear up the ground

 

i would put this in gen 4x4, im sure you will get many more replies and new ideas.

 

Here are some pics of my buddy Erics Jeep that runs 42"x24-17 Terras. He runs a D60 front/ 14 bolt rear 4.56 R&P Detroit F&R, TBI 350, D300 matted to a NP203 w/ Hydraulic assist steering. It does very well and is a stout set up.

 

thanks for the pics i will show them to my customer and see what he thinks

 

Places that sell rockwells are www.chuckstrucks.net, www.differentialeng.com, and www.boyceequipment.com. Most of the jeeps and buggies down here in florida run around 48" tractor tires w/ 1-ton or even 3/4 ton axles and have very few problems as long as they are driven conservatively.

 

It would ALOT cheaper and easyer to get older YJ or CJs and replace all the drive train with chevy stuff, rockys and have more power and less cost ... just do 305's and autos so they dont blow up to much stuff.

 

With Rockwells I would think weight would be an issue in wet mud.

 

....oh and open diff in front and lock the rear.

 

from what i have read they are only about 100-200 lbs heavier than 60's and 14 bolts
i just want to build it up where an idiot can drive it and not break anything with the big ass tires that are going on it

 

Thats the problem...idiots break things:shaking:

 

Like was said above, you might want to check out the FL swamp buggies and see if you can get some ideas; those things traverse all over the place in the Everglades... might be worth a look.

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